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chambers#1 said:
My point wasnt that athletes should be immune from public scrutiny. It is that they get more of it. i find it intresting that you completely glossed over the importance of people in public office and and corperations and mentioned some insurance guy.

<<Heck, Allstate Insurance just fired a guy for writing an article about homosexual marriage that got published on the web.>>

It seems to me that people in public office are using issues like gay marraige, dodgy athletes, and celebreties to hide what they are doing. Making people focus on these issues that have less relevance on our society and ignore the issues that really affect them.


<<Actually, it is quite common for people to lose their jobs/don't get specific jobs for their personal behavior. Some examples: If you got caught steeling, you will likely never hold a high position at a bank.>>



Actually I know a l;ot of high ranking officials that their indescretions get looked over. Just as an example our President and vice peresident have about 5 D.W.I.'s between them.


You are upset because I agreed with you, but didn't put enough emphasis on the area least relevant to the topic of the thread :confused:
 
<<A great post. I'm not ready to walk away from the Dolphins or the NFL yet, but I am starting to consider it. I don't mind that convicts and troubled youth make it to the NFL so much, that is inevitable. It's just that it's starting to appear that such activities are actually helping to enhance resume's instead of being a strike against the player. If you are looking at a player with marginal value and little chance to make the roster, why would you even bother considering a criminal? The NFL made ESPN cancel the show Playmakers because they felt it painted an innaccurate picture of the NFL, yet with each passing season it appears that show was dead on.>>



That is not true. Most organizations wont touch a prospect until the 3 , 4 , or 5th round(unless they are exceptions ti\o the rule). I mean no one would touch randy moss except for the raiders. You have to remember this is a business where the bottom line is money not your ideological views.
 
volk said:
You are upset because I agreed with you, but didn't put enough emphasis on the area least relevant to the topic of the thread :confused:
Actually, it is quite common for people to lose their jobs/don't get specific jobs for their personal behavior. Some examples: If you got caught steeling, you will likely never hold a high position at a bank. Get caught stripping, and you will lose your job in television, get arrested for sex crimes and you won't work with children, etc. This is the case with any job where personal integrity is important. Heck, Allstate Insurance just fired a guy for writing an article about homosexual marriage that got published on the web.

Athletes may not have a direct impact on our lives, but they do have an impact on the lives of children. Is it the athlete's fault that children look to them as role models? No, but that doesn't change the fact that they do. It is a uniquely public lifestyle involving millions of dollars. I agree that other institutions should make character an element of importance, but I don't think that the NFL should be expempt from it either.




This is agreeing with me?
 
chambers#1 said:
Actually I know a l;ot of high ranking officials that their indescretions get looked over. Just as an example our President and vice peresident have about 5 D.W.I.'s between them.


right, but thats half the story. after the president turned (40) he hasnt had a sip of alcohol. that makes him an ideal role model because he quit drinking, straightened out his life, and became the most powerful man in the freeworld. McMike can follow a similar path
chambers#1 said:
Actually, it is quite common for people to lose their jobs/don't get specific jobs for their personal behavior. Some examples: If you got caught steeling, you will likely never hold a high position at a bank. Get caught stripping, and you will lose your job in television, get arrested for sex crimes and you won't work with children, etc. This is the case with any job where personal integrity is important. Heck, Allstate Insurance just fired a guy for writing an article about homosexual marriage that got published on the web.
i see your point, but why would you then penalize an act of violence by a person whose profession entails violence?
chambers#1 said:
Athletes may not have a direct impact on our lives, but they do have an impact on the lives of children. Is it the athlete's fault that children look to them as role models? No, but that doesn't change the fact that they do. It is a uniquely public lifestyle involving millions of dollars. I agree that other institutions should make character an element of importance, but I don't think that the NFL should be expempt from it either.
i think the impact is minimal, esp off-the-field stuff. there are far more influencial people in a child's life that can and will make an impression on their outlook.

if your reference is to young black kids modeling their actions after other successful black men, i would wager that they are for more influenced by rappers and rich guys driving pimped out Escalades whose income is less than legitimate.

Do you really think an 8-year old kid is intensely following the McMike situation?
there are worse things going on right in front of his face to be bothered w/ that
 
Maynard said:
right, but thats half the story. after the president turned (40) he hasnt had a sip of alcohol. that makes him an ideal role model because he quit drinking, straightened out his life, and became the most powerful man in the freeworld. McMike can follow a similar path

i see your point, but why would you then penalize an act of violence by a person whose profession entails violence?

i think the impact is minimal, esp off-the-field stuff. there are far more influencial people in a child's life that can and will make an impression on their outlook.

if your reference is to young black kids modeling their actions after other successful black men, i would wager that they are for more influenced by rappers and rich guys driving pimped out Escalades whose income is less than legitimate.

Do you really think an 8-year old kid is intensely following the McMike situation?
there are worse things going on right in front of his face to be bothered w/ that


uhh half that stuff was me qouting someone else not me.



Maynard said:
right, but thats half the story. after the president turned (40) he hasnt had a sip of alcohol. that makes him an ideal role model because he quit drinking, straightened out his life, and became the most powerful man in the freeworld. McMike can follow a similar path


exactly m point?
 
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