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Dolphins In The No-huddle And Other Pointless Offensive Statistics

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Several astute Dolphins fans, such as our own ckparrot, have pointed out the following very interesting fact about Sunday's game:

When the Dolphins were in the no-huddle on Sunday, Ryan Tannehill was 9/11 for 144 yards and a 111.2 passer rating. When running from the no-huddle, the Dolphins had 8 rushes for 44 yards, which is almost five and a half yards per carry.

That's 9.9 yards per offensive play in the no huddle. That's really, really freaking good. Considering that none of that was inflated by two-minute drills against prevent defenses, that's... yeah, wow. That's good.

Can we maybe do a little more of this, please?


EDIT: Apparently, CK was way ahead of me on this one. I guess there's a reason I don't do a podcast.
 
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What percentage of the plays were that? About half I'd guess without going into the numbers
 
The Dolphins had 58 total offensive plays for 342 yards.

Huddle offense: 39 plays for 142 yards (note that there a few plays of clock milking / victory formation) - 3.6 yards per play
 
ckparrothead said:
Can we maybe give the credit where it's due when you cite my statistics?

Don't mean to be a bitch but I compiled that myself.
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Hey, I actually did not lift it from you. I was not aware that you posted about it?

I use NFL.com's game center to look at stuff like performance out of the shotgun / performance under center and stuff like that. And Pro Football Reference as a cheat sheet on things like Total Snaps/YPP. The discrepancy between the team's great no huddle performance and mediocre huddle offense performance was pretty night and day, even if you exclude the last two series of the game, in which Miami was running out of the huddle and pretty much just grinding it out.
 
While we're on the subject, I find it funny that there are always some discrepancies in the drive chart between ESPN, NFL.com, and PFR if you check right after a game. I wonder if they all just wait for an official Elias release to normalize these or something?
 
I notice that ESPN split stats are usually a week behind from season. I think its like you said. They have to normalize the stats and takes several days.
 
CK, since I know you take offense to people lifting your work, and because I remember when some particular dumbass did it to you here a while back:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/20180...p3000000960147&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay

I just grabbed every play listed as no huddle, ignored penalties (iirc one hold and the suplex on Jakeem Grant), and dumped them in an extremely ghetto Excel worksheet. This is terrible, but I'm actually not sure how penalties are factored into traditional offensive YPP calculations. I think it should probably actually be 8/10 for 139 yards, as the holding is also flagged as a no play.
 

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Interesting to me, because I honestly believe Ryan Tannehill runs the offense better under center and I have felt this way for a long time: If you toss out two kneeldowns at the end of each half, here's what I got from the chart:

Shotgun: 158 yards in total. 8 rushes for 36 yards, and Tannehill was 17/20 passing for 122 yards with one touchdown and one pick. Passer rating: 87.9

Under Center: 194 yards in total. 19 rushes for 86 yards. That's 16 for 86 if you toss out the last clock-killing drive. Tannehill was 3/8 passing... for 108 yards, a touchdown and an interception.. Passer rating: 85.4
 
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I have little doubt the stoppage's had more effect on our product than it did theirs. The team shook off the fluke INT before the first stoppage and never relented. If anything some of those injured Titans had time to at least heal up a bit.
 
I am planning to also look at play action passing vs not-play action passing, but my DVR of this game is 446 freaking minutes long. What am I doing with my life?
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
CK, since I know you take offense to people lifting your work, and because I remember when some particular dumbass did it to you here a while back:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018090903/2018/REG1/Titans@Dolphins?icampaign=scoreStrip-globalNav-2018090903#menu=gameinfo|contentId:0ap3000000960147&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay

I just grabbed every play listed as no huddle, ignored penalties (iirc one hold and the suplex on Jakeem Grant), and dumped them in an extremely ghetto Excel worksheet. This is terrible, but I'm actually not sure how penalties are factored into traditional offensive YPP calculations. I think it should probably actually be 8/10 for 139 yards, as the holding is also flagged as a no play.
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My mistake. You're correct. Especially now that we have a podcast that gets a couple thousand listens every release, those numbers were pretty exact for what I had.
 
No problemo. I gave you a shout out in the OP, anyway.

RE: Play Action. The Dolphins used play action on 9/28 pass attempts. Tannehill was 5/9 for 102 yards and a touchdown. Passer rating: 132.6. Obviously the 75 yard bomb strongly impacts that, but I thought he was pretty good on play action overall, factoring in a pretty brutal drop by Kenny Stills just before the touchdown.

The Dolphins also used play action more as the game went on. In the first 13 pass plays, they only went play action twice, but then started dialing it up more as the game progressed.


RE: Empty Set. The Dolphins ran four plays out of the empty set. They got two completed passes for 11 yards, one play called back on a penalty, and the only sack of the game resulted in -8 yards. Net result: 3 actual plays for 3 yards.


RE: Screen passes. The Dolphins ran two screen passes. Both were on third and long. The team picked up 14 yards on the two screen passes (way better than our 2016 average), but neither play successfully converted.


Play calls - Excluding plays nullified by penalty and victory formation kneel-downs: 30 passes, 24 rushes. If you take off the last drive when Miami just crashed three times into the line of scrimmage, you get a somewhat more unbalanced 30/21.


Yardage gained by pass: 7, 3, 4, 0, 6, 4, 7, 8, 5, 10, 13, 21, 8, 0, 4, 0, 4, 0, 8, 11, 0, 10, 0, 0, 10, 75, 0, 6, 0, 11

Dink, dunk, dink, dunk, 75 yard bomb to Kenny Stills, dink, dunk.


There was 1 sack against the Dolphins and it came when the team was in the shotgun, empty set, and huddled before the play. Team was off schedule (2nd and 13).

Anyway, it's my plan to keep this thread updated throughout the season, especially RE the screen passes. I hate them and I want to have some numerical proof to show that they stink. :chuckle:
 
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