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Dolphins' Jeff Ireland fights off perception team lacks plan

"Bill Parcells messed Ireland up," Crowder said. "He tried to teach Jeff to have that aura, but it doesn't work for him. It doesn't work for everybody. Bill Parcells is a unique individual."

I wish I'd read this thread and seen that quote before posting in the Ricky Williams thread. It's the same theme Ricky used in the Friday radio interview with Sid Rosenberg. Hard to imagine a more accurate line of thought.

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CK had an exceptional post to end page one. Covered every notable Ireland discrepancy and flaw based on the Darlington piece. I'll add that it's scary we have managed to sign everyone we've seriously gone after in free agency, other than Clark. I preferred the fantasy that we'd missed out on some of those guys who can actually play, just like I had a dream that Matt Flynn was more than twice as valuable as Artis Hicks.

Jeff Ireland asserts himself as a bottom line no-nonsense evaluator in one sentence, then in the next self appraisal he comes across as a psychology professor at a New England liberal arts college, with that ridiculous fluff of bringing in a player not to sign him but to see how he gets along with the head coach.

Every time I insist Jeff Ireland should speak more to fans and media, he provides an example of how wrong I can be.
 
Awsi Dooger said:
"Bill Parcells messed Ireland up," Crowder said. "He tried to teach Jeff to have that aura, but it doesn't work for him. It doesn't work for everybody. Bill Parcells is a unique individual."

I wish I'd read this thread and seen that quote before posting in the Ricky Williams thread. It's the same theme Ricky used in the Friday radio interview with Sid Rosenberg. Hard to imagine a more accurate line of thought.
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I didn't need to hear any of those players speak a word of it for me to know it. Hell, I pointed this out a while back in post #69 of this thread....

http://www.finheaven.com/forums/sho...-media&p=1064256894&highlight=#post1064256894



Ireland doesn't have the confidence, credentials, or clout to come across like the pissant that he is. Parcells had built a reputation as a COACH that afforded him the dispensation from being a nice guy.

He did it out there on the fresh cut grass of a practice field for decades with a whistle around his neck TEACHING players how to play the game of football. Players look at coaches as TEACHERS. They look at pencil neck GM's like Jeff Ireland as a step above a sportswriter. They're not teachers, but rather people assigned to place value on their skills as a football player from behind a desk.

There's a difference.
 
I made a joke earlier but to me the idea of having "A Plan" is not just having one but sticking to it. We have had several plans over the several years. That is almost if not worse then having a plan.

When you are always changing the offense or the defense or the coaches it is hard to stick with anything. A still think that going to a 3-4 was a huge mistake. I loved the 10 man defensive line rotation that we had with the 4-3 defense.

With a cap system you really need to build though the draft. Almost all of our best players we have traded for or are Free Agents and most of them are overpaid. That is a sorry way to build a team.

I really hate to bring Madden up but it works in RL. I rarely if ever pick up costly Free Agents. I always bite the bullet and lose for a while and build slowly though the draft.

That is what we need to do here. Bite the bullet(one more time) and build though the draft.

My huge thing is this. Do we improve every season? If so, we are on the right track.

And please OMG do not make my whole post about this but I would not pay R Bush $6 million a year. D Thomas is making I'm sure far less then $2 Million. The RB we can draft and replace R Bush with will be making $550,000 a season at most. I'd trade R Bush in a second for a decent draft pick.
 
ckparrothead said:
You are assuming that Joe Philbin and Jeff Ireland were on the exact same page about Matt Flynn. That is a BAD assumption. Joe Philbin gave the Dolphins the green light thumbs up to go after Matt Flynn. He called Flynn multiple times. He met with him down in Miami. He sweet talked him. He left the rest to Jeff Ireland, admitting HIMSELF that he has absolutely zero to do with the money involved in these offers as that is Jeff Ireland's job. After getting sweet talked by Philbin via phone and in person, Flynn gets in a room with Jeff Ireland and Ireland tried to bend him over and ass rape him. It was a strong CONTRADICTION in message and that is exactly what Flynn did not like, and it's why he went running for the hills.

The thing Joe Philbin did not do is demand that Flynn be here at all costs because he's an elite quarterback. But as a first time Head Coach working under a General Manager that he's not familiar with, the chances of him demanding anything were slim, and it's ridiculous to expect a guy like Philbin to evaluate Matt Flynn as an elite level quarterback based on two starts. I don't care how much practice and meeting time you've had with the guy, you don't know if the guy plays well in the games until he plays in the games, and you don't know how he handles an entire season let alone multiple seasons of being a starter until he does that.
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And, love him or hate him, this is why Jeff Fisher, or any other HC with gravitas, is not here....
 
I think the plan is to have a bunch of different plans that smash together and form one mutant plan that will take over the NFL.
 
OP you've got to be kidding right? Ireland is a joke and NO ONE wants to play here....Jim harbaugh NO! jeff fisher NO! peyton manning NO! ( who LIVES in florida AND the warm weather is THE closest thing to throwing indoors---but where does he go? to THE WORST weather city in the NFL) not that i wanted a 36 yr old with a broken neck--i think he is finished! but to have PEYTON not want to play here is an insult to the highest degree....jeff ireland is a joke and needs to go period!
 
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