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Im a die hard dolphin fan but I believe that rather in the first round drafting a qb i believe you get the best available db available out there... they are going to have a lot trouble with the pass this year i believe? anyone hear anything on madison leaving? Go fins!
 
runrickyrun21 said:
Im a die hard dolphin fan but I believe that rather in the first round drafting a qb i believe you get the best available db available out there... they are going to have a lot trouble with the pass this year i believe? anyone hear anything on madison leaving? Go fins!

we need safeties that tackle very very good and are very smart/leaders. i want bing especially but heatlh concerns me. i rather go S 1st/lb then CB 1st. 1st rd CB seem to scare me for soem reason. look at last years cb that went in the top 10. they are crap so far from waht i know. daniels is also playign MUCH better then webster his teammate that went in the 2nd. if you ask me, saban can polish some of these guys to be great ala surtain/madison from rd 2 adn up. give me S rd one or LB if not QB.
 
We will sure up the secondary by taking Michael Huff....I hope

The kid can tackle well and cover, play safety or corner
 
runrickyrun21 said:
Im a die hard dolphin fan but I believe that rather in the first round drafting a qb i believe you get the best available db available out there... they are going to have a lot trouble with the pass this year i believe? anyone hear anything on madison leaving? Go fins!

I agree... It was our weakness the past year...

However, I want to point something out...

There is a reason SAMMY hasn't had a multitude of interceptions the past few years... All the QBs know better!!! Everyone is saying that SAMMY is on a decline because he hasn't had the INTS! Noone realizes that this guy is feared in the NFL! He may be getting old, and he may have slowed down a bit, but most QBs are going to throw to the WR that is NOT covered by him!

Losing him will open the door for QBs next year! They will test both sides, whereas they would only throw to the side that SAMMY was not on...:D
 
Alex22 said:
We will sure up the secondary by taking Michael Huff....I hope

The kid can tackle well and cover, play safety or corner


im hoping the same....
 
FINintheMOON said:
I agree... It was our weakness the past year...

However, I want to point something out...

There is a reason SAMMY hasn't had a multitude of interceptions the past few years... All the QBs know better!!! Everyone is saying that SAMMY is on a decline because he hasn't had the INTS! Noone realizes that this guy is feared in the NFL! He may be getting old, and he may have slowed down a bit, but most QBs are going to throw to the WR that is NOT covered by him!

Losing him will open the door for QBs next year! They will test both sides, whereas they would only throw to the side that SAMMY was not on...:D
I agree FINintheMOON
 
hmm

we need ko simspon or bobby taylor
 
Welll Supposedly Will Poole will be healthy Daniels had a solid rookie year !!! Schulters will stay Bell is coming along and if we get Huff that is great I see a young Bright secondary
 
the more i hear about cromartie the more i would love to have him, he is 6´3 did run the 40 yards in 4.31 and did 25 reps on 225, he has a torn acl that however reportedly, he is fully recovered from, if he produces these kinds of numbers at the combine he will be a top 10 pick and that would be sad to see, jimmy williams or michael huff would be the logical other choices then, if we look for DB or Secondary
 
I would doubt Saban drafts a DB first round. That is his best area of expertise and I feel he is confident that he can find talent later in the draft, possibly 3rd/4th rd.

I like Sam, I think he is still a good cover corner. His best ability is man coverage and he is asked to do alot more then that in Saban's defensive scheme. Sam isn't a good tackler even for a CB and I doubt he is gonna improve alot at tackling at this point in his career. He does play zone well enough though, and I saw him make a few plays in zone this year to knock down some balls. Not sure if he will be back, I do doubt he will be released though. I fig we can get something in trade for him if he doesn't fit into the future of this team.

Hopefully Mitchell and Poole will be able to contribute this year. Alot will hinge on what Saban thinks he can get out of our young guys. I like Shulters and Bell at safety, with Tillman as a backup.

Uhh so I guess to sum this up, got a bit longer then I thouht it would.

*Trade Sam if we can get good compensation, If not pay the guy another year we can use his veteran leadership at CB.

*Draft a Safety, I would guess late 1st day if one is there that looks good when we pick. Or pick up a project guy with one of the 7th/UFA

*Pray that Poole and Mitchell can produce on the field this year. Hard to really talk about our line up pre-pre-pre-season =)

Go Phins !!!
 
Assuming that Madison and Howard are not coming back and that Schulters and Bell are re-signed, our secondary looks something like this:

CBs - Poole, Daniels, Mitchell, Jackson
S - Schulters, Jones, Bell, Tillman

What to do:
CB - Even assuming that Poole comes back healthy and becomes our starting RCB and Mitchell can become a viable option as the 3rd CB (who'd get a lot of playing time), they are still, along with Daniels, a very young and inexperienced group. That's not to say they can't get the job done, but there'd more than likely be some growing pains. I forsee that if Saban is sold on Mitchell and Poole, that he signs a veteran CB in FA. If he doesn't do that, I would then assume he'll go after a 3nd - 4rd rounder in the draft. I don't think in any way the Madison or Howard are retained.

S: Schulters may be difficult to re-sign. He'll want a bigger contract, but if Howard is cut, I can see him giving Howard money to him. Jones can hold us for another year that is left on his contract. They, along with Bell and Tillman came together in the second half of the season. But I think that S would be a 1st or 2nd round pick for us, or perhaps a Huff (who can play both positions).

So I see CB/S as being as much as two of our day one picks. I'm not sure that Saban will be comfortable enough with Poole and Daniels. The weakness that tandem would create is a lack of ideal speed at both CB positions.

All this is moot until just before the draft. If Saban signs a couple of CBs and/or safeties that can be starters...then he wouldn't have to go in that direction. I do think that he will want to add a young Safety at least in preparation for Schulters and Jones eventual departure...
 
runrickyrun21 said:
Im a die hard dolphin fan but I believe that rather in the first round drafting a qb i believe you get the best available db available out there... they are going to have a lot trouble with the pass this year i believe? anyone hear anything on madison leaving? Go fins!


I think alot will depend on the health of Poole and Mitchell.
 
If Wil Poole is healthy..mark him down as a starter..that kid's gonna be a great player!! Reminds me of Antione Winnifield.
 
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