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If an organization is serious about contending for the Super Bowl every year, then it must be constructed through the draft. Forget high priced free agents, they do not make teams competitive. If a team has a unit that is remarkably efficient, say, a high scoring offense, or a havoc-causing defense, you'll find almost without exception that that unit is made up almost entirely of draft picks a team cultivated themselves.

The Indianapolis Colts have 11 starters on offense that have never played a down for another team. 10 of their defensive starters have never played for another team.

The Chicago Bears best unit is their defense, the only starter not drafted by the Bears was Agunleye.

The Steelers' Super Bowl team from last year only had three players in the starting lineup on either side of the ball that wasn't drafted by the Steelers, and one of them, Jeff Hartings, had been with the team long enough to count as a sort of permanent fixture.

The Seahawks' Super Bowl team had one non-Seahawk draftee starting on offense, and three on defense.

The Patriots and Eagles have been two teams that have traditionally embraced the viewpoint that a team is built almost exclusively through the draft. The Pats had nine starters on offense acquired through the draft, ten if you switch Maroney with Dillon. They have 7 starters on defense acquired through the draft.

The Eagles have nine starters on offense acquired through the draft (I do not count Garcia as he was not the franchise quarterback) and one, Jon Runyan, who was a free agent acquisition that has now been with the team for ages. They have one defensive starter not drafted by the Eagles.

The Chargers had 9 starters on offense drafted by the Chargers, not including Turner, who saw significant action as a backup, the Chargers had 8 on defense.

We'd go to great extremes to have an offense like the Bengals, and nine of their starters on offense were drafted by the Bengals, it'll probably be ten after they let their tight end go in free agency.

The great Ravens' defense has 9 starters drafted by Baltimore. Their offense has 8 starters on offense drafted by the team.

You could go on and on.

The Dolphins on the other hand have 6 starters on offense not drafted by the team, and 7 starters on defense not drafted by the team. In other words more then half of the squad is made up of personnel from somewhere else. You are not going to win big with that sort of mix.

Those advocating signing big dollar free agents as some sort of elixir for what ails this team haven't learned the most obvious lesson of free agency, it doesn't fix much. Look at all of the money the Vikings have spent to bring guys in--Pat Williams, Antoine Winfield, Darren Sharper, Chester Taylor, Travis Taylor, Ben Leber, Steve Hutchinson, etc, etc., and the team is garbage.

The Redskins only have 10 starters on either side of the ball they drafted, and the results are not surprising.

The Dolphins more resemble the Vikings, or Redskins at this point then they do the Chargers, or Colts. Bad drafting has decimated the roster in Miami, just as it has in Minnesota and Washington. Our fortunes will only be reversed when we start drafting to the point where the large majority of our starters are home grown, and we have enough cap space to keep them when they become eligible for free agency. That's why I'm absolutely opposed to making big dollar acquisitions in free agency, it just isn't going to improve the team, and it'll restrict our ability to re-sign our own guys in the future.
 
thats why millions are put into scouting and draft day, but unfortunatly things havent worked out to well for the dolphins. we have gotten a couple of good picks, but we have had some bad trades (lol aj feely anybody) and failed to bring depth to this team. depth in this league has become so paramount beacuse of injuries and such. great post, and heres to a great draft this time around!
 
great thread and your statistics make me angry,,we have been the worst drafting team in football for a long time
 
Good stuff. Just furthers the old adage that you build your team through the draft and get maybe one or two missing parts via free agency. And even then, its probably not smart to break the bank to bring in that missing piece.

Actually, if you are talking about one missing piece being the only thing between your team and a SB, you are probably overestimating how good your team is. A lot of us probably did that this last year with Culpepper.
 
Its good to see a dose of realiy here, good thread...Thank you for pointing out those numbers, I believe we need to get rid of some of our players for more draft picks, the middle of the draft is where the quality of your draft is measured. I am not against us trading down for additional second or third round picks...I would so much rather watch a young team grow and learn for a year or two, then to have another patched together team underachieve...

Although I know we have limited time with such cherished players as Taylor and Thomas, I believe those guys would be perfect for showing younger players the ropes. And If we address this sooner than later we could be contenders before those guys retire. If not they may go through another season of dissapointment and retirement might come quicker than if we did bring some strong youth to this team.
 
If an organization is serious about contending for the Super Bowl every year, then it must be constructed through the draft. Forget high priced free agents, they do not make teams competitive. If a team has a unit that is remarkably efficient, say, a high scoring offense, or a havoc-causing defense, you'll find almost without exception that that unit is made up almost entirely of draft picks a team cultivated themselves.

The Indianapolis Colts have 11 starters on offense that have never played a down for another team. 10 of their defensive starters have never played for another team.

The Chicago Bears best unit is their defense, the only starter not drafted by the Bears was Agunleye.

The Steelers' Super Bowl team from last year only had three players in the starting lineup on either side of the ball that wasn't drafted by the Steelers, and one of them, Jeff Hartings, had been with the team long enough to count as a sort of permanent fixture.

The Seahawks' Super Bowl team had one non-Seahawk draftee starting on offense, and three on defense.

The Patriots and Eagles have been two teams that have traditionally embraced the viewpoint that a team is built almost exclusively through the draft. The Pats had nine starters on offense acquired through the draft, ten if you switch Maroney with Dillon. They have 7 starters on defense acquired through the draft.

The Eagles have nine starters on offense acquired through the draft (I do not count Garcia as he was not the franchise quarterback) and one, Jon Runyan, who was a free agent acquisition that has now been with the team for ages. They have one defensive starter not drafted by the Eagles.

The Chargers had 9 starters on offense drafted by the Chargers, not including Turner, who saw significant action as a backup, the Chargers had 8 on defense.

We'd go to great extremes to have an offense like the Bengals, and nine of their starters on offense were drafted by the Bengals, it'll probably be ten after they let their tight end go in free agency.

The great Ravens' defense has 9 starters drafted by Baltimore. Their offense has 8 starters on offense drafted by the team.

You could go on and on.

The Dolphins on the other hand have 6 starters on offense not drafted by the team, and 7 starters on defense not drafted by the team. In other words more then half of the squad is made up of personnel from somewhere else. You are not going to win big with that sort of mix.

Those advocating signing big dollar free agents as some sort of elixir for what ails this team haven't learned the most obvious lesson of free agency, it doesn't fix much. Look at all of the money the Vikings have spent to bring guys in--Pat Williams, Antoine Winfield, Darren Sharper, Chester Taylor, Travis Taylor, Ben Leber, Steve Hutchinson, etc, etc., and the team is garbage.

The Redskins only have 10 starters on either side of the ball they drafted, and the results are not surprising.

The Dolphins more resemble the Vikings, or Redskins at this point then they do the Chargers, or Colts. Bad drafting has decimated the roster in Miami, just as it has in Minnesota and Washington. Our fortunes will only be reversed when we start drafting to the point where the large majority of our starters are home grown, and we have enough cap space to keep them when they become eligible for free agency. That's why I'm absolutely opposed to making big dollar acquisitions in free agency, it just isn't going to improve the team, and it'll restrict our ability to re-sign our own guys in the future.

hell we aint built for the playoffs. i would be happy with a playoff game....
 
Very true, but really, I think most realize that teams are built thru the draft and only augmented thru free agency.

A Team cannot stay within the salary cap trying to build a team thru free agency.

The Dolphins have had to augment more than usual thru free agency due to poor drafting....its really that simple.
 
I understand your point, and I agree, but why didn't you bring up the Saints? :wink:
 
If an organization is serious about contending for the Super Bowl every year, then it must be constructed through the draft. Forget high priced free agents, they do not make teams competitive. If a team has a unit that is remarkably efficient, say, a high scoring offense, or a havoc-causing defense, you'll find almost without exception that that unit is made up almost entirely of draft picks a team cultivated themselves.

The Indianapolis Colts have 11 starters on offense that have never played a down for another team. 10 of their defensive starters have never played for another team.

The Chicago Bears best unit is their defense, the only starter not drafted by the Bears was Agunleye.

The Steelers' Super Bowl team from last year only had three players in the starting lineup on either side of the ball that wasn't drafted by the Steelers, and one of them, Jeff Hartings, had been with the team long enough to count as a sort of permanent fixture.

The Seahawks' Super Bowl team had one non-Seahawk draftee starting on offense, and three on defense.

The Patriots and Eagles have been two teams that have traditionally embraced the viewpoint that a team is built almost exclusively through the draft. The Pats had nine starters on offense acquired through the draft, ten if you switch Maroney with Dillon. They have 7 starters on defense acquired through the draft.

The Eagles have nine starters on offense acquired through the draft (I do not count Garcia as he was not the franchise quarterback) and one, Jon Runyan, who was a free agent acquisition that has now been with the team for ages. They have one defensive starter not drafted by the Eagles.

The Chargers had 9 starters on offense drafted by the Chargers, not including Turner, who saw significant action as a backup, the Chargers had 8 on defense.

We'd go to great extremes to have an offense like the Bengals, and nine of their starters on offense were drafted by the Bengals, it'll probably be ten after they let their tight end go in free agency.

The great Ravens' defense has 9 starters drafted by Baltimore. Their offense has 8 starters on offense drafted by the team.

You could go on and on.

The Dolphins on the other hand have 6 starters on offense not drafted by the team, and 7 starters on defense not drafted by the team. In other words more then half of the squad is made up of personnel from somewhere else. You are not going to win big with that sort of mix.

Those advocating signing big dollar free agents as some sort of elixir for what ails this team haven't learned the most obvious lesson of free agency, it doesn't fix much. Look at all of the money the Vikings have spent to bring guys in--Pat Williams, Antoine Winfield, Darren Sharper, Chester Taylor, Travis Taylor, Ben Leber, Steve Hutchinson, etc, etc., and the team is garbage.

The Redskins only have 10 starters on either side of the ball they drafted, and the results are not surprising.

The Dolphins more resemble the Vikings, or Redskins at this point then they do the Chargers, or Colts. Bad drafting has decimated the roster in Miami, just as it has in Minnesota and Washington. Our fortunes will only be reversed when we start drafting to the point where the large majority of our starters are home grown, and we have enough cap space to keep them when they become eligible for free agency. That's why I'm absolutely opposed to making big dollar acquisitions in free agency, it just isn't going to improve the team, and it'll restrict our ability to re-sign our own guys in the future.

Weak drafts is why we have floundered for 5 years. Thats the sad truth
 
If an organization is serious about contending for the Super Bowl every year, then it must be constructed through the draft. Forget high priced free agents, they do not make teams competitive. If a team has a unit that is remarkably efficient, say, a high scoring offense, or a havoc-causing defense, you'll find almost without exception that that unit is made up almost entirely of draft picks a team cultivated themselves.

The Indianapolis Colts have 11 starters on offense that have never played a down for another team. 10 of their defensive starters have never played for another team.

The Chicago Bears best unit is their defense, the only starter not drafted by the Bears was Agunleye.

The Steelers' Super Bowl team from last year only had three players in the starting lineup on either side of the ball that wasn't drafted by the Steelers, and one of them, Jeff Hartings, had been with the team long enough to count as a sort of permanent fixture.

The Seahawks' Super Bowl team had one non-Seahawk draftee starting on offense, and three on defense.

The Patriots and Eagles have been two teams that have traditionally embraced the viewpoint that a team is built almost exclusively through the draft. The Pats had nine starters on offense acquired through the draft, ten if you switch Maroney with Dillon. They have 7 starters on defense acquired through the draft.

The Eagles have nine starters on offense acquired through the draft (I do not count Garcia as he was not the franchise quarterback) and one, Jon Runyan, who was a free agent acquisition that has now been with the team for ages. They have one defensive starter not drafted by the Eagles.

The Chargers had 9 starters on offense drafted by the Chargers, not including Turner, who saw significant action as a backup, the Chargers had 8 on defense.

We'd go to great extremes to have an offense like the Bengals, and nine of their starters on offense were drafted by the Bengals, it'll probably be ten after they let their tight end go in free agency.

The great Ravens' defense has 9 starters drafted by Baltimore. Their offense has 8 starters on offense drafted by the team.

You could go on and on.

The Dolphins on the other hand have 6 starters on offense not drafted by the team, and 7 starters on defense not drafted by the team. In other words more then half of the squad is made up of personnel from somewhere else. You are not going to win big with that sort of mix.

Those advocating signing big dollar free agents as some sort of elixir for what ails this team haven't learned the most obvious lesson of free agency, it doesn't fix much. Look at all of the money the Vikings have spent to bring guys in--Pat Williams, Antoine Winfield, Darren Sharper, Chester Taylor, Travis Taylor, Ben Leber, Steve Hutchinson, etc, etc., and the team is garbage.

The Redskins only have 10 starters on either side of the ball they drafted, and the results are not surprising.

The Dolphins more resemble the Vikings, or Redskins at this point then they do the Chargers, or Colts. Bad drafting has decimated the roster in Miami, just as it has in Minnesota and Washington. Our fortunes will only be reversed when we start drafting to the point where the large majority of our starters are home grown, and we have enough cap space to keep them when they become eligible for free agency. That's why I'm absolutely opposed to making big dollar acquisitions in free agency, it just isn't going to improve the team, and it'll restrict our ability to re-sign our own guys in the future.

Best Post Ever!!!

High Priced Free Agents are not the way to build a team, yet everytime a player becomes a free agent, there are lots of people here wanting to sign them....

Stop the madness..Build through the draft.

SB
 
If an organization is serious about contending for the Super Bowl every year, then it must be constructed through the draft. Forget high priced free agents, they do not make teams competitive. If a team has a unit that is remarkably efficient, say, a high scoring offense, or a havoc-causing defense, you'll find almost without exception that that unit is made up almost entirely of draft picks a team cultivated themselves.

The Indianapolis Colts have 11 starters on offense that have never played a down for another team. 10 of their defensive starters have never played for another team.

The Chicago Bears best unit is their defense, the only starter not drafted by the Bears was Agunleye.

The Steelers' Super Bowl team from last year only had three players in the starting lineup on either side of the ball that wasn't drafted by the Steelers, and one of them, Jeff Hartings, had been with the team long enough to count as a sort of permanent fixture.

The Seahawks' Super Bowl team had one non-Seahawk draftee starting on offense, and three on defense.

The Patriots and Eagles have been two teams that have traditionally embraced the viewpoint that a team is built almost exclusively through the draft. The Pats had nine starters on offense acquired through the draft, ten if you switch Maroney with Dillon. They have 7 starters on defense acquired through the draft.

The Eagles have nine starters on offense acquired through the draft (I do not count Garcia as he was not the franchise quarterback) and one, Jon Runyan, who was a free agent acquisition that has now been with the team for ages. They have one defensive starter not drafted by the Eagles.

The Chargers had 9 starters on offense drafted by the Chargers, not including Turner, who saw significant action as a backup, the Chargers had 8 on defense.

We'd go to great extremes to have an offense like the Bengals, and nine of their starters on offense were drafted by the Bengals, it'll probably be ten after they let their tight end go in free agency.

The great Ravens' defense has 9 starters drafted by Baltimore. Their offense has 8 starters on offense drafted by the team.

You could go on and on.

The Dolphins on the other hand have 6 starters on offense not drafted by the team, and 7 starters on defense not drafted by the team. In other words more then half of the squad is made up of personnel from somewhere else. You are not going to win big with that sort of mix.

Those advocating signing big dollar free agents as some sort of elixir for what ails this team haven't learned the most obvious lesson of free agency, it doesn't fix much. Look at all of the money the Vikings have spent to bring guys in--Pat Williams, Antoine Winfield, Darren Sharper, Chester Taylor, Travis Taylor, Ben Leber, Steve Hutchinson, etc, etc., and the team is garbage.

The Redskins only have 10 starters on either side of the ball they drafted, and the results are not surprising.

The Dolphins more resemble the Vikings, or Redskins at this point then they do the Chargers, or Colts. Bad drafting has decimated the roster in Miami, just as it has in Minnesota and Washington. Our fortunes will only be reversed when we start drafting to the point where the large majority of our starters are home grown, and we have enough cap space to keep them when they become eligible for free agency. That's why I'm absolutely opposed to making big dollar acquisitions in free agency, it just isn't going to improve the team, and it'll restrict our ability to re-sign our own guys in the future.

Good post, and you're correct. If we ever want to build a strong foundation that will last into the future, this team must at all costs, stop trading away draft picks every off-season. We're mortgaging our future, and getting nothing for it in the end. It's time we started stockpiling picks instead of giving them away.....

PHINZ RULE!!!!
 
If an organization is serious about contending for the Super Bowl every year, then it must be constructed through the draft. Forget high priced free agents, they do not make teams competitive. If a team has a unit that is remarkably efficient, say, a high scoring offense, or a havoc-causing defense, you'll find almost without exception that that unit is made up almost entirely of draft picks a team cultivated themselves.

The Indianapolis Colts have 11 starters on offense that have never played a down for another team. 10 of their defensive starters have never played for another team.

The Chicago Bears best unit is their defense, the only starter not drafted by the Bears was Agunleye.

The Steelers' Super Bowl team from last year only had three players in the starting lineup on either side of the ball that wasn't drafted by the Steelers, and one of them, Jeff Hartings, had been with the team long enough to count as a sort of permanent fixture.

The Seahawks' Super Bowl team had one non-Seahawk draftee starting on offense, and three on defense.

The Patriots and Eagles have been two teams that have traditionally embraced the viewpoint that a team is built almost exclusively through the draft. The Pats had nine starters on offense acquired through the draft, ten if you switch Maroney with Dillon. They have 7 starters on defense acquired through the draft.

The Eagles have nine starters on offense acquired through the draft (I do not count Garcia as he was not the franchise quarterback) and one, Jon Runyan, who was a free agent acquisition that has now been with the team for ages. They have one defensive starter not drafted by the Eagles.

The Chargers had 9 starters on offense drafted by the Chargers, not including Turner, who saw significant action as a backup, the Chargers had 8 on defense.

We'd go to great extremes to have an offense like the Bengals, and nine of their starters on offense were drafted by the Bengals, it'll probably be ten after they let their tight end go in free agency.

The great Ravens' defense has 9 starters drafted by Baltimore. Their offense has 8 starters on offense drafted by the team.

You could go on and on.

The Dolphins on the other hand have 6 starters on offense not drafted by the team, and 7 starters on defense not drafted by the team. In other words more then half of the squad is made up of personnel from somewhere else. You are not going to win big with that sort of mix.

Those advocating signing big dollar free agents as some sort of elixir for what ails this team haven't learned the most obvious lesson of free agency, it doesn't fix much. Look at all of the money the Vikings have spent to bring guys in--Pat Williams, Antoine Winfield, Darren Sharper, Chester Taylor, Travis Taylor, Ben Leber, Steve Hutchinson, etc, etc., and the team is garbage.

The Redskins only have 10 starters on either side of the ball they drafted, and the results are not surprising.

The Dolphins more resemble the Vikings, or Redskins at this point then they do the Chargers, or Colts. Bad drafting has decimated the roster in Miami, just as it has in Minnesota and Washington. Our fortunes will only be reversed when we start drafting to the point where the large majority of our starters are home grown, and we have enough cap space to keep them when they become eligible for free agency. That's why I'm absolutely opposed to making big dollar acquisitions in free agency, it just isn't going to improve the team, and it'll restrict our ability to re-sign our own guys in the future.
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Thats right. Draft BPA or most pressing need thats close to BPA. Levi Brown or Omobi Okoye.
 
Good post, and you're correct. If we ever want to build a strong foundation that will last into the future, this team must at all costs, stop trading away draft picks every off-season. We're mortgaging our future, and getting nothing for it in the end. It's time we started stockpiling picks instead of giving them away.....

PHINZ RULE!!!!

i agree that teams are built through the draft. but, smart free agent signings are also very important.

i would agree that we have given away too many draft picks. but i think this has been accented by the fact that the players we are getting for picks just havent performed.

here is a good article from today about the colts building through the draft

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070128/SPORTS03/701280400
 
Nice post. Agree with every inch but we could use atleast one high-priced free agent. One guy who is the absolute best at what he does. That's not too much is it? The rest through the draft.

Nate Clements. It would be nice not to have to worry about the opposing team's best wide-out.
 
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