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Dolphins Offensive Line Is Essential To Bringing The Deep Ball Back To Miami

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The chicken vs. the egg debate has plagued Miami Dolphins fans for the better part of former quarterback Ryan Tannehill’s tenure with the team. Was the team ineffective passing the ball deep because Tannehill didn’t see it and was reluctant want to throw it, or is it because the team’s offensive line didn’t give Tannehill the necessary time to survey the field and make his reads?

https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2...tial-to-bringing-the-deep-ball-back-to-miami/
 
The offensive line was an excuse. Did it make our QBs life's a hell of a lot harder? Of course. But look at Russel Wilson, look at Aaron Rodgers, hell even look at Jameis Winston. Their lines are awful too and they have no problem getting the ball down field and scoring points.
 
Not a revelation to the fans of this team.... I can't understand the inept attempt to field an offensive line for such a long time...

Is there anyone out there that can explain WHY? With all the coaching experience and scouting experience we have yet to solidify the (IMO) most important group on offense. I will probably get blasted for that remark with snarky comments but I don't care how good your QB is he cannot do great things consistently without the O-line executing.

Can anyone explain why we haven't been able to build a line that can block? Is the GM or owner blind to this? It's been YEARS and I know from snorting coke to injuries we have some "excuses" (some will say reasons) but it's unbelievable that this organization can't identify players that can block at this level of football...

I don't know how we can have any real expectations from ANY QB, RB or receiver when the line is always under construction... so any criticism of Drake or any other offensive player under these conditions is clouded with doubt in my mind until we give them a chance to perform.

I get the opposing defense could disrupt your plans but my god man... for years????
 
It's completely baffling to me that this hasn't been fixed for the better part of a decade. Any argument to the end of "it's on the QB" went out the window for me when I repeatedly watched the O-Line become completely incapable of handling a simple stunt.

Just a stunt. Fooled them repeatedly. Maddening.
 
Not a revelation to the fans of this team.... I can't understand the inept attempt to field an offensive line for such a long time...

Is there anyone out there that can explain WHY? With all the coaching experience and scouting experience we have yet to solidify the (IMO) most important group on offense. I will probably get blasted for that remark with snarky comments but I don't care how good your QB is he cannot do great things consistently without the O-line executing.

Can anyone explain why we haven't been able to build a line that can block? Is the GM or owner blind to this? It's been YEARS and I know from snorting coke to injuries we have some "excuses" (some will say reasons) but it's unbelievable that this organization can't identify players that can block at this level of football...

I don't know how we can have any real expectations from ANY QB, RB or receiver when the line is always under construction... so any criticism of Drake or any other offensive player under these conditions is clouded with doubt in my mind until we give them a chance to perform.

I get the opposing defense could disrupt your plans but my god man... for years????

Quality coaching
 
The offensive line was an excuse. Did it make our QBs life's a hell of a lot harder? Of course. But look at Russel Wilson, look at Aaron Rodgers, hell even look at Jameis Winston. Their lines are awful too and they have no problem getting the ball down field and scoring points.

But all of them play noticeably worse behind a bad OL. Throw in inept coaching and the DBs knowing the routes and the deep ball becomes a rarity.
 
The offensive line was an excuse. Did it make our QBs life's a hell of a lot harder? Of course. But look at Russel Wilson, look at Aaron Rodgers, hell even look at Jameis Winston. Their lines are awful too and they have no problem getting the ball down field and scoring points.
The quarterbacks you mention their offense of lines weren’t / aren’t as bad as the Dolphins.
 
The offensive line was an excuse. Did it make our QBs life's a hell of a lot harder? Of course. But look at Russel Wilson, look at Aaron Rodgers, hell even look at Jameis Winston. Their lines are awful too and they have no problem getting the ball down field and scoring points.

Jameis’ stats are almost identical to Tannehill’s. And of course HOF caliber players are going to perform better.
 
Well, we’ve all been wanting that OL to improve for years and years. Not
Holding my breath

Tunsil should be good, but has had moments of f ups

Deiter, we can only hope is alright as a rookie - but he will still have his rookie mistakes

Kilgore - meh. Very meh

Assuming Reed wins the RG spot, another career meh guy.

Davis at RT, maybe he makes a giant improvement from last year at RG but idk. He played ok for like a game and a half at tackle, and supposedly is in better shape.... fingers crossed

We’re going to have the coaching drastically improves things or else we are right back at square one
 
This deep ball thing is a fallacy. You need to throw over the middle and the deep ball will come with it. Brady, Manning and every other so called "deep ball" passer makes a living on mid to short range passing and then sets up the deep ball and executes a throw when presented the opportunity.

Yeah maybe the line needs to give you more time but it isn't the root cause.
 
We need a few unforeseen *positive surprises* on the OL
to really make a significant uptick in performance -- specifically
a few rookies in addition to Deiter stepping up and showing
some game.
 
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The chicken vs. the egg debate has plagued Miami Dolphins fans for the better part of former quarterback Ryan Tannehill’s tenure with the team. Was the team ineffective passing the ball deep because Tannehill didn’t see it and was reluctant want to throw it, or is it because the team’s offensive line didn’t give Tannehill the necessary time to survey the field and make his reads?

https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2...tial-to-bringing-the-deep-ball-back-to-miami/

A pretty common sense statement. Not exactly putting yourself on a limb there. I think you're gonna be a very disappointed fan this year based on your hope for this Oline
 
It wasn't the chicken vs. the egg, it was the chicken and the egg.
 
Obviously, to allow the QB time to throw the deep ball the OL needs to block longer before the QB releases the ball. That means better pass protection. But once we hit on one or two of those, the defenses usually back off on that tight coverage sitting on the short stuff, and it opens up the entire passing game and the running game. It's an essential element, which is why people always talk about occasionally "taking a shot" deep. Without it, we become what Tannehill faced for much of his Miami career, without enough time to throw the deep ball, the defenses clamp down on the underneath stuff, and we get shut down.

I wholeheartedly agree with the OP, we need to stabilize this OL's pass protection so we can take some shots deep. Oddly enough, Ryan Fitzpatrick is one of the best QB's in the league at throwing the deep ball too early, lofting lots of air under it, and dropping it into the bucket for his bigger WR's to get it. It's risky, and one of the many things that makes him a gunslinger. But, it can and does effectively allow a team to take shots deep even when the OL's pass protection sucks.

Either way, I'm expecting us to throw more deep balls this year, just from the personnel changes alone. Hopefully this loosens up coverages for a more effective short passing game, and it should definitely open up run lanes a bit more. This isn't a season where I'm expecting us to become a good team, but in this one area I am actually excited. I'm going to worry less about the long INT's that are almost as effective as a punt, and focus more on the long chunk yardage completions that lead to points. Kinda like golf … I'm gonna concentrate on the good shots.
 
We need a few unforeseen *positive surprises* on the OL
to really make a significant uptick in performance -- specifically
a few rookies in addition to Deiter stepping up and showing
some game.

We agree again. Tunsil is the real deal. Deiter, excluding rookie mistakes, should be above average. Kilgore is average, but that's OK. Every good OL in the NFL has 2-3 average players. The key is no BELOW average players. That leaves one OG and RT to give me concern. I hope at least one guy will step up. It will make the next draft a lot easier and this season more fun to watch.
 
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