Dolphins over/under set at 7 wins
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I'll take the over...
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It's so hard to say! I've always thought we've had the talent to win more than 7 games. But time and time again we fall short 8 games or less. Without seeing this new coaching staff and players in action argh
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I think that's fair, pretty tough schedule. I'd love to say over, hell even push, but the schedule got worse and I don't know how much better the talent is; if the coaching makes the difference the team could be dangerous, but until I see it I'll take the Under.
I don't bet on sports but I'd go under if I was to make a financial bet. I see 5-11 or 6-10.
We have been an average team for 4 years under Joe Philbin. When you figure all the firings from last year it's no surprise we dipped below .500. I think we were a .500 team last year with glaring deficiencies on the o-line and coaching staff. Getting rid of Philbin and his staff is good for a win. This soon to be improved o-line is worth another IMO. We will finish 9-7 and above .500 for the first time since 2008.
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I've stated elsewhere, we saw the difference a HC can make when we saw Philbin's games and Campbell's 1st 2 games. Unfortunately, Campbell and staff became predictable. I agree, Dallas Thomas cost at least one game. We can agree J Taylor and Grimes cost one more. That said, I'm uncomfortable with 9 wins. I think it's POSSIBLE, but everything must go right and it rarely does. If this team has no or no significant injuries, I'll take 7+ wins. I don't see that happening.
How many more wins will better coaching qb play result in? How about addressing the run defense? I think this team his very hard to gauge because lack of history of the coaching. We will know early and can then maybe re-forecast wins and losses.
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We agree. But Mario is better at run D than OC, Jones (for example) is better than wake, and any jockey is as good as Mitchell. If KA play to 80% of expectations, he's better than Sheppard. I think the run D WILL be better. I agree, again, this team is hard to gauge. I can spin 9 wins and I can spin 4 wins, depending on the assumptions I make. That's not a forecast, that's evidence of the unknowns. The good news is eliminating J Taylor, Thomas, improving the run D, and getting a real HC should be worth 2 wins. The bad news is this will be a tougher schedule and potential injuries make it harder. Remember, I'm the guy who will evaluate this team on the last 8 games. There's a reason for that.
The two big things potentially being fixed can exponentially add wins. When you can stop the run and get great OL play, you control the trenches, and thus the game. Mix that in with a coach that has a reputation for being innovative on offense with a defensive coach that is playing the right scheme, I don't mean to sound optimistic, but the fundamentals are there for more wins. I really don't care if we are missing a corner here, a LB there or a RB here. You get solid play from your lines and place your qb in a good position, wins take care of itself. We need to avoid the costly sack/fumble or the gash for 29 yards late in a game by a running back on a passing down that breaks our heart.
I got 10,000 Vbucks on the over...any takers?
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Yes...be careful of sounding optimistic...its frowned upon in these parts!
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Yes...be careful of sounding optimistic...its frowned upon in these parts!
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Douglas, Thomas, Turner, Fox, (and/or insert any rookie, back-up, starter playing out of position, or scab offensive lineman that somehow started for us last year) cost us at least 2 games last year. That's not even an argument.
The center position alone cost us....but let's just say/keep it at 2 games from bad o-line play(remember the safeties and bad snaps?? - this line was a JOKE!).
So if we improve the offensive line, coaching schemes/attitudes, LB's (Kiko steps up....people forget Jelani played hurt last year)...then I can see us +4 wins over last year.
So I'd go for the over 7.
The center position alone cost us....but let's just say/keep it at 2 games from bad o-line play(remember the safeties and bad snaps?? - this line was a JOKE!).
So if we improve the offensive line, coaching schemes/attitudes, LB's (Kiko steps up....people forget Jelani played hurt last year)...then I can see us +4 wins over last year.
So I'd go for the over 7.
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Agua
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If it drops to 5, I'd take over. Too many unknowns @ 7.
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If you ask yourself,,,, "Self, are we really better than last year"? Coaching = I think we all agree that Gase gives this team this organization the best chance to win from the coaches. Offense = Might miss Miller, other than that, this offense has improved, great WR core, and again, a play caller who gets "it", and knows how to win in the NFL. Defense = Though I liked Grimes, Maxwell is bigger, younger and comes without baggage (ala: Miko), the #2 CB was a revolving door-should be improved, D-Line will be better, especially with a new DC who use his pieces to their strengths and Suh will ultimately be better in year 2. LBers. not much change, Kiko if healthy is a HUGE upgrade, wild card could be Deon Jordan. Special team = improved from flexibility standpoint alone. How many wins will the above translate too???
A better win total than in '15, so right there is at least 7. Take the OVER
A better win total than in '15, so right there is at least 7. Take the OVER