Dolphins reaching out to Zach Streif | Page 5 | FinHeaven - Miami Dolphins Forums

Dolphins reaching out to Zach Streif

I love it when teams think their guy makes moves in terms of the cap that nobody has figured out yet. I hear that all the time with Dawn Aponte.

Never said Loomis had cap moves that nobody else figured out yet. I just said he knows how to work the cap. Every year we hear the same garbage - the Saints have no cap space and only 35 players under contract how will they ever field a 53 man team? Every year they field a team and with Payton on the sidelines they are usually a playoff team.

With that said, if Loomis was so effective with the cap why are jettisoning half their playmakers? The answer is they have franchise QB making the lion share of the money and they are unable to strike a deal with the best TE in football.

Half their playmakers? Lance Moore barely contributed last year and completely disappeared the last half of the season. Now I won't argue that trading Darren Sproles wasn't a cap move but at 31 years old he was clearly slowing down. Finally on Graham, Mickey Loomis is a tough negotiator. He takes his time working deals (see Drew Brees contract negotiations). Graham's deal will get done after the whole TE v. WR thing is settled.

They are capped out and that is why Strief is not back.

They were "capped out" before signing Jarius Byrd too. Mickey Loomis and Sean Payton know how build teams so if they had considered Streif essential he would still be a Saint.
 
I'm not doing the Eric Winston dance a third time....gimme Ryan Harris on the cheap if we can't snag Strief and draft his replacement.

Any issue with Clabo starting again? He seemed to play better the second half and maybe Benton can work his magic
 
Any issue with Clabo starting again? He seemed to play better the second half and maybe Benton can work his magic

Ya my issue is he doesn't fit the scheme...same issue I have with McKinnie. But Albert isn't exactly a great move guy so if we're going in a different direction then he'd probably be a better option than Harris or Winston. Got respect the guy, he's a true professional and I think he has another year left if he joins a team with a scheme better suited for his skillset.
 
Any issue with Clabo starting again? He seemed to play better the second half and maybe Benton can work his magic

I'd sign him to a 1 year deal as a backup if we can. And I'm talking, "Break glass in case of emergency" type. He ain't getting any quicker or better.
 
we should be focusing on defense. Cromartie, Thurmond, Brown should be signed (2 of the 3) should be signed. If Vince Wilfork is cut, he should be here.
 
...
at this point i think miami should look to the draft for the right tackle...the options aren't worth the money imo...sign some of these guards on the cheap and go to the draft...doubt philbin will though...we dont want with benton our oline coach two average at best move athlete tackles...unless we are gonna run some different stuff...trying to sign a beadles tells me we are not though...

I agree. Rookie LG and RT sounds about right to me. But, we are still 1 more starting OG away from there. The pickin's are slim. So, let's keep looking for one more quality veteran better than Garner and Brenner.
 
Never said Loomis had cap moves that nobody else figured out yet. I just said he knows how to work the cap. Every year we hear the same garbage - the Saints have no cap space and only 35 players under contract how will they ever field a 53 man team? Every year they field a team and with Payton on the sidelines they are usually a playoff team.



Half their playmakers? Lance Moore barely contributed last year and completely disappeared the last half of the season. Now I won't argue that trading Darren Sproles wasn't a cap move but at 31 years old he was clearly slowing down. Finally on Graham, Mickey Loomis is a tough negotiator. He takes his time working deals (see Drew Brees contract negotiations). Graham's deal will get done after the whole TE v. WR thing is settled.



They were "capped out" before signing Jarius Byrd too. Mickey Loomis and Sean Payton know how build teams so if they had considered Streif essential he would still be a Saint.

Half the playmakers was too strong. However, Sproles is a big loss and the TE will be a holdout.

Okay. I have had my fill of Saints tall for three years.
 
Never said Loomis had cap moves that nobody else figured out yet. I just said he knows how to work the cap. Every year we hear the same garbage - the Saints have no cap space and only 35 players under contract how will they ever field a 53 man team? Every year they field a team and with Payton on the sidelines they are usually a playoff team.



Half their playmakers? Lance Moore barely contributed last year and completely disappeared the last half of the season. Now I won't argue that trading Darren Sproles wasn't a cap move but at 31 years old he was clearly slowing down. Finally on Graham, Mickey Loomis is a tough negotiator. He takes his time working deals (see Drew Brees contract negotiations). Graham's deal will get done after the whole TE v. WR thing is settled.



They were "capped out" before signing Jarius Byrd too. Mickey Loomis and Sean Payton know how build teams so if they had considered Streif essential he would still be a Saint.

Creative accounting for the short term masks future salary cap hell. He is probably banking on massive future increases in the salary cap to get him out of trouble.
 
Creative accounting for the short term masks future salary cap hell. He is probably banking on massive future increases in the salary cap to get him out of trouble.

Loomis is doing what it takes to win now. Brees isn't going to play forever. When Brees retires the Saints will go through a rebuilding period coupled with going through cap hell.
 
Any issue with Clabo starting again? He seemed to play better the second half and maybe Benton can work his magic

HUGE issues with this idea
 
Ya my issue is he doesn't fit the scheme...same issue I have with McKinnie. But Albert isn't exactly a great move guy so if we're going in a different direction then he'd probably be a better option than Harris or Winston. Got respect the guy, he's a true professional and I think he has another year left if he joins a team with a scheme better suited for his skillset.

clabo fit the scheme...but it was like 3 years ago...
 
Again? He needs convincing to come visit?

yes. and i get your meaning on that. it sucks we would have to beg anyone. there was a time if we wanted a free agent, we got them!!

but for those who are confused, the saints are a TOP NOTCH, REAL DEAL SUPERBOWL CONTENDER WITH A BIG TIME QB AND A BIG TIME F/O WHO HAS KEPT THEM STOCKED WITH GOOD TALENT FOR YEARS!!

now the dolphins. we are just the opposite. at least the last 10 years anyways. and i believe hickey will do wonders for us in the long run, but, his thing hasnt even started yet. this team is almost void of any real talent [3 guys dont make it] an iffy qb who has proved NOTHING and a franchise that is basically lost to time. the MAJORITY of the boards are made up of guys from 16 to 30 and our glory days are not even a whisper to them. there just names, old stories. dan marino is just a name. don shula? the steak house dude? the marx brothers, those silent movie guys?

now think of all these young guys, 22-30 year olds out there in free agency. thats all they know about this team. dan marino, the tv guy and shula the steak house dude. just as otto graham and the 50's packers and crazy leggs hirsch were to me in the early 70's. names i had heard about but never saw play other than an old clip or two or heard older guys talk about in my dads garage.

we havnt been to a superbowl since 1884 and havnt won one since 1973!! our last playoff spot was a fluke that turned into a drubbing by the ravens. were a small dot in nfl history. i dont like it, but, those are the facts. and these kids want to play for winners, or the latest, hot, this is the place to be team like the browns are right now. i know there is some doom and gloom on hickeys inaugural f/a run right now but you cant sign guys who dont want to come here! and come on, if you were playing right now, in your prime, are you signing with the broncos or pats or the miami dolphins?

you cant blame them. i dont.

and zach streif is no different. i am sure he would like to go back to his all world team and he is waiting to see if there is any room left for him. i would to.

we have a LONG way to go folks before this team is resurrected. and it doesnt help when we get new personel like hickey in here and 15 threads on our forum are dedicated to hating him being here.

if the fans are bad mouthing everything here and any changes we make, thats not a big attraction for free agents. and the f/a's DO look at teams forums when there looking for a new team. and laying down a nuclear bomb on our new gm BEFORE he even does one thing here hurts us, it doesnt make us attractive at all. all the losing, all the bad vibe with martin and the stench around the nfl players with ireland and his antics and this is how we greet his replacement? how do we convince players to come here when the fans think we are trash? when were hating on guys who havnt even done a thing, havnt even loaded a pen and pencil into their office yet?

and a long time fins beat writer telling our new o-t to enjoy it because the fans will be hating him shortly.

when you have this kind of fan base and strife and bickering and hate and a team that hasnt won a thing in decades, you dont get choice free agents. you get guys who are wanting their last big pay day or guys who are about the money first and winning second. and every once in a while one falls through the cracks like starks did and now earl mitchell. hungry, young up and comers. but thats RARE in free agency.

and there are other reasons a f/a wont play for a team. maybe the wife says NO, NO WAY to a city or state? player wants to stay on the west coast or east coast by his family. its not always the gm dropped the ball or the owner wouldnt shell out. and you can bet some of the f/a's hickey has had on his radar wouldnt come because of some of those things. yeah, it sux when we see all these cool players fall of the board to other teams, winning teams, but as i said, its not always the gm or owners fault we didnt get a certain player.

winning will fix all this. we need a buzz to start with our team and the best way to get it going is WITH US! its time to create a positive buzz [not to be confused with blind homerism]. we have a new gm, a new direction, a man known for his ability to identify talent, a man everyone has liked to work with over his 18 year nfl career. lets get a buzz going and get out of this hate vibe/stupor were in.

would you want to come to a team whose fans are full of hate for the team? we have a new direction. a new attitude in the front office. lets all ride it untill it cant be rode instead of hating on it all before it gets off the ground.
 
Back
Top Bottom