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"All that shaped me into the person I am now,'' he said. "All the negative talk. All the people saying I couldn't do it. You don't let people bring you down. You just keep working."

Ever since he arrived as the ninth pick in 2007, everyone has wanted Ginn to be something more. That's understandable. He only has four receiving touchdowns. It's why coach Tony Sparano challenged him in these offseason workouts.

Maybe, as with school, it takes the fastest guy on the team a little while to get up to speed. You won't know until September. But Sparano sees enough to rank Ginn in the top two players who have grown the most since last year (he didn't name the other).

"Just with the way he's handling himself out there. The way the whole offense has started to slow down for him a little bit for him that way. I really have seen him be, in some situations, pretty dominant,'' he said.

"You can see his confidence is really at a high level right now. He's running better. Playing a little bit stronger. I mean, even handling kicks back there I've seen a little different guy."
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...fl-dave-hyde-ted-ginn-060409,0,2937668.column
 
Nice.

9th pick or 30th pick, he's on the squad. With confidence and his weight in the 185lb - 190lb range (not sure if he is still 175lb), Ginn is a serious threat. He made people look foolish on those end arounds last year and he made Chad's arm look weak last year on the long throws by always having to come back to get the ball.

If we can throw some slants to him this year, Ginn gets 6 tds minimum easy.
 
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miamiron said:
Hope Ginn can get it together and show some TD production this year
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One way for Ginn to improve his TD production is to be in the game when the team gets in the red zone. Like Pennington said, that's where you get some of your easier touchdown passes.
 
That's a good story about Ted but it could have went into further details about the obstacles he had to overcome. Like being told by a junior high school coach that he was too small, too slow and too dumb to ever be an athlete and how as an high school freshman he weighed 120 pounds and was put on a strict 5,000 calorie a day diet, along with a five day a week workout schedule designed to put on gain speed, weight and flexibility.
 
Geforce said:
One way for Ginn to improve his TD production is to be in the game when the team gets in the red zone. Like Pennington said, that's where you get some of your easier touchdown passes.
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I think the red zone receivers this season will be:
  • Turner
  • Armstrong / London / Camarillo
  • TE (whoever stands out in the Fasano / Martin / Haynos / Nalbone / Bronson / Wilford "pod")
  • Ricky/Ronnie (Polite? Cobbs?)
I don't know that Teddy G is who you really want lined up as WR on the goal line. (I think Bess is another great between the 20's player who can get swallowed up by the D in the red zone.) Maybe I'm out to lunch. Yeah he's fast but I would think close to the goal line height rules. It seems like a lot of Ginn's TDs from last year were intermediate range passes where he had room to maneuver and put that speed to use.

RBs I don't think are so height limited since they often catch it in the flat and dart in.
 
That is great! I think Ginn (like most of our team) is really gonna have a great season. If Ginn can step up and prove he is a number 1 guy, that will make Henne's transition into our starting qb that much better (next season). I also think both their success will lie in the Oline and run game.
 
mikethewreck said:
I think the red zone receivers this season will be:
  • Turner
  • Armstrong / London / Camarillo
  • TE (whoever stands out in the Fasano / Martin / Haynos / Nalbone / Bronson / Wilford "pod")
  • Ricky/Ronnie (Polite? Cobbs?)
I don't know that Teddy G is who you really want lined up as WR on the goal line. (I think Bess is another great between the 20's player who can get swallowed up by the D in the red zone.) Maybe I'm out to lunch. Yeah he's fast but I would think close to the goal line height rules. It seems like a lot of Ginn's TDs from last year were intermediate range passes where he had room to maneuver and put that speed to use.

RBs I don't think are so height limited since they often catch it in the flat and dart in.
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If that was true, then how do you explain Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne's success in the red zone. How about the Mark Brothers? Except for the jump ball, it's all about getting position and/or seperation. If a receiver can defeat the jam at midfield, he should be able to defeat the jam in the red zone. Once the receiver defeats the jam, it is up to the QB to get him the ball at the optimal time. This is why Marino loved the fade-stop. He could throw the ball in the direction of the receiver and let them adjust to the ball. The defender usually had his back to the QB so he never knew the ball was thrown until it was too late.
 
mikethewreck said:
I think the red zone receivers this season will be:
  • Turner
  • Armstrong / London / Camarillo
  • TE (whoever stands out in the Fasano / Martin / Haynos / Nalbone / Bronson / Wilford "pod")
  • Ricky/Ronnie (Polite? Cobbs?)
I don't know that Teddy G is who you really want lined up as WR on the goal line. (I think Bess is another great between the 20's player who can get swallowed up by the D in the red zone.) Maybe I'm out to lunch. Yeah he's fast but I would think close to the goal line height rules. It seems like a lot of Ginn's TDs from last year were intermediate range passes where he had room to maneuver and put that speed to use.

RBs I don't think are so height limited since they often catch it in the flat and dart in.
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Ginn caught two TD passes last season. a 39-yarder where he was about 8 yards deep into the endzone and a 27-yarder near the left pylon. he didn't use his speed after the catch here. you're probably thinking about the two end-arounds he took home.
 


YEAR-CATCHES-YARDS-AVG YDS/CATCH-NO. 1ST DOWNS

2007 34 420 12.4 18
2008 56 790 14.1 36
2009 79 1150 16.0 55


Now these are the numbers that Ted Ginn had for the first two years and if you use a straight line extrapolation from the first two years as setting the slope it will lead to the 2009 year stats,assuming he improves as much this as he did in the first two years.

I don't think it will be a straight line extrapolation because:



  1. Ginn has learned a lot from two years of coaching.
  2. He has improved his route running capability we saw that late last year.
  3. He has adjusted to the speed of the NFL.
  4. He will be used more this year in the WC because the WC will be used more.
  5. Pat White has a strong arm for the deeper passes.
  6. Ginn will not be used in the ST return except in emergency (one of our new guys injured.)
  7. Ginn will have other good receivers that will take some of the pressure of him.
  8. Ginn has gotten stronger and will get away from the press.


The straight line extrapolation says Ted will get 1150 Yds receiving in 2009 but I think it will be closer to 1500 yds because of PC's improvement on his arm strength and Pat White in the WC.
 
If Ginn has 1,500 yards receiving, I'll c*** on the ceiling, and we'll be a very legitimate contender.

Not holding my breath . . .
 
j-off-her-doll said:
If Ginn has 1,500 yards receiving, I'll c*** on the ceiling, and we'll be a very legitimate contender.

Not holding my breath . . .
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i might have to pull this thread up if he does it.. then i expect full pics of your **** on the ceiling as the last post in the thread before they move it to Depths of the Sea
 
i might have to pull this thread up if he does it.. then i expect full pics of your **** on the ceiling as the last post in the thread before they move it to Depths of the Sea
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I REALLY hope he gets to that point. I think he's capable, but to expect it seems much. And, I might need the aid of a ladder. But, if he's at 1,200 with two or three weeks left in the season, I'll start up on Kegels.
 
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