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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...7/24/ryan-tannehill-adam-gase-miami/87502566/

DAVIE, Fla. – New coach and new offensive system aside, Ryan Tannehill doesn’t want to overcomplicate his explanation of how the Miami Dolphins can apply lessons from last year’s mess to do better under Adam Gase.
“It’s not like we’re trying to fricking split an atom here,” Tannehill told USA TODAY Sports recently, sitting after practice at Dolphins headquarters. “It’s little things that ultimately help us play a little better and we’ll win a few more games.
“If I improve this much,” the fifth-year quarterback added, holding the tips of his thumb and index finger a half-inch apart, “then hopefully, I push the guys around me to improve that much, and then we’re going to be in a whole new spot.”

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That’s not an original concept. But the Dolphins go as Tannehill goes, and it’s reasonable to think he has a chance to resume an upward trajectory under Gase, whose work with quarterbacks including Peyton Manning and Jay Cutler was a selling point in getting the job.
Statistically, Tannehill was headed that way prior to the 2015 tumult: coach Joe Philbin’s firing four games in, offensive coordinator Bill Lazor’s dismissal less than two months later, a tongue-lashing from Tannehill to Dolphins practice squad members that became public. Tannehill’s completion rate dipped (61.9%), but he still set career highs in yards (4,208) and yards per pass (7.2) with 24 touchdowns and 12 interceptions.
At 27, Tannehill remains an ascending player. He has enviable physical traits. He’s known as a grinder. And while consistency has been elusive, for him and a team that hasn’t made the playoffs since 2008, the new regime seems to have genuine belief in Tannehill, evidenced by two noticeable shifts:
· Unlike Philbin at times, Gase has had no problem saying publicly Tannehill is his quarterback. “I understand it’s a business at the end of the day, so if you’re not performing, then they have to look for someone to replace you,” Tannehill said. “But right now, I feel like Adam has my back 100%. It’s definitely a little bit of a changeup for me, so I enjoy it.”

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Nice article. Love the shot at Philbin:

“But right now, I feel like Adam has my back 100%. It’s definitely a little bit of a changeup for me, so I enjoy it.”

Also, this is a good quote:

Watch those past performances, though, and it’s not hard to find drives (a rally past the Atlanta Falcons in 2013) and games (home wins over the New England Patriots the past three seasons, with Tannehill posting passer ratings of 120.6 and 112.8 in two of them) to stoke optimism.
 
he also just had a son (today afaik) huge congrats Ryan :up:

(didn't think it needed a thread :idk: )
 
It's all on you Ryan. Have a great season please.
 
It is great to see him looking and sounding like a leader. This team desperately needs those and fewer distractions (Grimes). They are young and need the veterans to step up and show them not only how to be professional players but how to act when they are off the field. I am hopeful we will see the entire team take some giant strides between now and week 17.
 
So all "Queezy Joe Philbin" did by NOT supporting Ryan Tannehill is get himself fired. Nice move Joe.

How do expect a guy to be the team leader if he doesn't get the support of the head coach? A HC that abandons his QB but still makes him throw the ball almost 600 times? For what? because he was lusting after Derek Carr?

We all know he didn't develop him or try to fix the problems. He just limited what he could do on the field and in the film room.
 
So all "Queezy Joe Philbin" did by NOT supporting Ryan Tannehill is get himself fired. Nice move Joe.

How do expect a guy to be the team leader if he doesn't get the support of the head coach? A HC that abandons his QB but still makes him throw the ball almost 600 times? For what? because he was lusting after Derek Carr?

We all know he didn't develop him or try to fix the problems. He just limited what he could do on the field and in the film room.

I keep reading or conjuring up all the more reasons why Philbin might end up as having been as toxic to the organization as Cam Cameron. I for one was bamboozled - initially mistaking his no nonsense approach for the second coming of Tom Landry rather than the insecure, blind leading the blind, small-minded inflexibly, foolish persona that in reality it was.
 
Nice article. Love the shot at Philbin:



Also, this is a good quote:

Not to send this diving into another Tannehill debate, but it's never been about the ability to have great drives or games, it's been about the consistency of stringing them together. Everyone in the NFL can have good games, but the best players do it with consistency. Not just multiple games in a row, but multiple years in a row.
 
I keep reading or conjuring up all the more reasons why Philbin might end up as having been as toxic to the organization as Cam Cameron. I for one was bamboozled - initially mistaking his no nonsense approach for the second coming of Tom Landry rather than the insecure, blind leading the blind, small-minded inflexibly, foolish persona that in reality it was.

But look on the bright side, the locker room has never looked tidier and the lighting in the bubble is fabulous!
 
Not to send this diving into another Tannehill debate, but it's never been about the ability to have great drives or games, it's been about the consistency of stringing them together. Everyone in the NFL can have good games, but the best players do it with consistency. Not just multiple games in a row, but multiple years in a row.

I agree but even the best players need a supporting cast that doesn't suck in order to be consistent. In addition, no young QBs are consistent game to game for complete seasons. Not Luck, not Wilson, not Newton, not Carr, none of them.

IMO, the only legitimate knock on Tannehill is that he has not proven to be consistent on a decent team, because he has never been on one. I acknowledge that there is no guarantee that Tannehill will be consistent once the OL doesn't suck, but I'd love to find out.
 
I agree but even the best players need a supporting cast that doesn't suck in order to be consistent. In addition, no young QBs are consistent game to game for complete seasons. Not Luck, not Wilson, not Newton, not Carr, none of them.

IMO, the only legitimate knock on Tannehill is that he has not proven to be consistent on a decent team, because he has never been on one. I acknowledge that there is no guarantee that Tannehill will be consistent once the OL doesn't suck, but I'd love to find out.

It's just been a sore point. Obviously there is no timetable or guarantee as to when or if a quarterback will reach that desired level of consistency. But eventually it does come at a cost, of perhaps picking up a replacement or laying idle for too long. Do you at least agree that year 5 should be Tannehill's last year to get a free ride as the starting QB? Although I will say, Chicago and Detroit seem to be in similar situations but haven't really gone the extra yard to bring in new QBs or bring in competition.
 
To have a guy like Gase come in who really commands an offense and brings the attacking mindset each and every day to practice and games – he really wants to find the weaknesses in defenses and exploit those – I feel like it’s coming at a great time for me.”

This is the part that excites me. Give him the keys to exploit the D.
 
It's just been a sore point. Obviously there is no timetable or guarantee as to when or if a quarterback will reach that desired level of consistency. But eventually it does come at a cost, of perhaps picking up a replacement or laying idle for too long. Do you at least agree that year 5 should be Tannehill's last year to get a free ride as the starting QB? Although I will say, Chicago and Detroit seem to be in similar situations but haven't really gone the extra yard to bring in new QBs or bring in competition.

First of all, "free ride" is harsh. Say what you want about time tables but what ultimate success has Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, Tony Romo, or Carson Palmer had? When does Joe Flacco stop riding the SB win? How about Andy Dalton? Cam Newton had done what leading into his 5th year? Is Andrew Luck a question mark after last season?

These guys have all had multiple seasons of 8-8 or worse (or have been backups on a team with multiple losing records): Romo, Brees, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Flacco, Newton, Alex Smith, Stafford, Cutler, Eli Manning, Carr, Bradford, Cousins, Fitzpatrick, Gabbert, Bortles, Palmer, Tyrod Taylor, RGIII, Sanchez, Tannehill.

22 of 32 starting QBs have been at .500 or below at least twice (some quite a bit more than 2). Only Brady, Rodgers, Dalton, and Wilson have been in the league long enough and still haven't been at 8-8 or worse even once.

These teams are preparing to field QBs that haven't had multiple 8-8 or worse seasons as a starter or backup - Patriots, Packers, Bengals, Seahawks, Colts, Vikings, Texans, Titans, Bucs, Rams.

Nobody is going to claim Dalton and Bridgewater aren't beneficiaries of their teams & coaching. Luck looked very mortal last season. Winston and Mariota only have one year and Goff is a rookie so they don't count. Osweiler was the backup on the Broncos so he doesn't count either.

I think the above is ample evidence that the supporting cast has a big impact on all QBs.
 
So all "Queezy Joe Philbin" did by NOT supporting Ryan Tannehill is get himself fired. Nice move Joe.

How do expect a guy to be the team leader if he doesn't get the support of the head coach? A HC that abandons his QB but still makes him throw the ball almost 600 times? For what? because he was lusting after Derek Carr?

We all know he didn't develop him or try to fix the problems. He just limited what he could do on the field and in the film room.

The thing about a real leader though, people will follow them, and believe in them, if the team viewed QB17 as a leader, it wouldn't matter if the HC was behind him or not, this is another area he needs to step up in.
 
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