FISHFAN44
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Michael Vick s**ks. He's over rated. I don't know how he even makes the pro bowl. What the heck do they go by. He was ranked #21 over all in QB ratings with a 78. That means 8 NFC QB's were better how does he do it.
dolphins should go after brees/vick in 2006
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ch19079
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are you serious? he is the ONLY reason that team wins any games. he might not be able to throw in the pocket, but he wins games. he should be in the MVP voting every season.FISHFAN44 said:
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ch19079 said:
Serious as a heart attack. You say he can't throw in the pocket :confused: . When he does throw it's a joke. Give me the definition of a QB? He has great atheletic ability but, can't throw the ball. And the last time I check it's the #1 ability scouts look for in a QB. What gives?? Randell Cunninghan another example great speed and atheletic ability but couldn't pass or read defenses. Growing up in Philly I'll never forget Lawrance Talyor saying in a interview the best way to defend Randall is to let him throw the ball. To contain him not rush him was your best defense against him. When defenders figure that out then there will be the downfall of Vick.
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I am a VT alum and I've seen both Mike and Marcus play. I also happen to live where they both grew up. So, I have seen and heard a lot about both.
My opinion is that while at Tech, Mike proved to be an exceptional athlete who had a rocket of an arm. And he was fairly accurate with his passes, particularly the long ball. To date, Marcus has only played a handful of games. He started a few two years ago, but played inconsistenly and couldn't grab the starting QB spot from Bryan Randall. In that time, he showed to be pretty elusive and a rocket of an arm as well. However, he was less accurate that his brother. He also showed a good bit of immaturity and a lack of understanding of the position and ability to read defenses.
Now, I believe that Marcus will get much better than what he showed then. But, to say that he will be better than his brother based on what he's shown to date is just crazy. In fact, I'd be happy if he got anywhere close to his brother.
My opinion is that while at Tech, Mike proved to be an exceptional athlete who had a rocket of an arm. And he was fairly accurate with his passes, particularly the long ball. To date, Marcus has only played a handful of games. He started a few two years ago, but played inconsistenly and couldn't grab the starting QB spot from Bryan Randall. In that time, he showed to be pretty elusive and a rocket of an arm as well. However, he was less accurate that his brother. He also showed a good bit of immaturity and a lack of understanding of the position and ability to read defenses.
Now, I believe that Marcus will get much better than what he showed then. But, to say that he will be better than his brother based on what he's shown to date is just crazy. In fact, I'd be happy if he got anywhere close to his brother.
GreenMonster
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FISHFAN44 said:
8 other QB's had better passing stats that all. Vick wins games by any mean and there are only 4's I would rather have on my team (Manning, Brady, Culpepper, McNabb). Would you trade 78 QB rating Fielder for 78 QB rating Vick. Why or Why not.
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GreenMonster said:
No because they both s**k. With Fielder we were getting 10 win seasons. So what's your point. but, how about Bulger, Delhomme and Farve, Plummer to name a few there's many more I'd take before him. He will not be able to do what he's doing for much longer.
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GreenMonster said:
Compare completion stats when you compare Vick's. I bet Vick didn't throw that often because he was always running. Have a spy that can tackle on him and a decent secondary and you beat the Falcons.
You left off Farve, Penington(?), Brees and Hasselbeck as a few I'd rather have then Vick.
GreenMonster
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FISHFAN44 said:
Wow thank God you are not a GM. Do you even watch Vick play? Where the Falcons beating teams down every year before Vick got there. Did they ever make the playoffs let alone win a game. Plummer, Bulger, Delhomme are you kidding me. Defensive coor. shudder at the thought of Jake Plummer let me tell you...
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bigmiamifan said:
Pennington, Brees, Hasselback are you kidding me. Brees and Hasselback have 1 good year and now they are better than a young Mike Vick please.
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I would never have a guy on my team that smokes dump.
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GreenMonster said:
Ahh correct me if I'm wrong but, didn't Delhomme go the the superbowl a couple of years ago didn't he go 33-16, 323 yds 3tds and 0 ints. Vick gets that in 3 games. And didn't he throw 2 TD"s against a tough Eagle defense to get there. Bulger simply don't have no defense. He put's up the points but, unfortunate so does his defense to the other team. Denver's rebuilding to just think how these guys will do when the rest of the team is in atct.
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FISHFAN44 said:
Yes great game by Delhomme. He always has just 1 winning season under his belt and is like 30. He couldn't even make a awful Saints team has 3 times the experience of Vick. Bulger loves to throw the big int. and is in a pass happy offense with good skill players. Jake Plummer we shouldn't even be speaking in the same breath as Vick. Everyone knows Vicks stats aren't great but he wins games. He got VT to the national championship game in college. He turned a crappy Falcons team, to a playoff contender whenever he is on the field. He is 24 and just coming off a year were they lost in the NFC champ. He only has 36 starts under his belt and many QB's need that much time to get adjusted (see Drew Brees). He is also the hardest player in the NFL to gameplan for.
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GreenMonster said:
Bulger yes throws int's but has 7 more td's than int's not great but, when you look at Vick he just about throws 1 td for every int that's horrible. Is Bulger the next Marino NO but he better than Vick.