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Yep, this defense spends the 4th most in the NFL on defense (current projection for 2018 is $94,728,563, behind only the Jags, Broncos, and Chiefs)

Where does that $94M+ come from?

Suh, 26.1M—Huge number for a player who is very good at what he does, but not as impactful as guys like Aaron Donald and Fletcher Cox.

Reshad Jones, 11.575M—Large number for a really solid player, but again, not the most impactful safety in the league. Definitely one of Miami's best players, and when used properly, is worth most of that money.

Andre Branch, 10M—This is the most puzzling contract on this team. Branch has 10 sacks in two years, so an average of 5 sacks per year. Essentially, Branch is making 2M per sack if he keeps that average up. Absolutely horrendous contract.

Kiko Alonso, 9.6M—another puzzling contract. Miami could have had Kiko play on the tender for another season and had money to spend elsewhere, but instead, hugely bet that Kiko would DRASTICALLY improve on his play from 2016. As we saw this year, Kiko is a liability in coverage and often takes poor angles or guesses wrong. Not as bad as the Branch contract, but it's approaching F territory.

Cameron Wake, 8.6M—Wake has been everything we've hoped he would be when we signed him from the CFL. He's had a great career in Miami and has enjoyed recognition as one of the most feared pass rushers in the league. However, Wake just turned 36 and has essentially only retained his usefulness in passing situations. Of the contracts listed, this is the only one so far that Miami can reasonably get out of. I'm sure Wake would continue playing in 2018, but Miami needs to think about the future and getting younger at one of the most important positions on the field.

Lawrence Timmons, $8.225—We should consider this contract, like Kiko and Branch, robbery. Timmons absolutely had money as his number one priority when signing last season, and though he had some moments, his play throughout the season was inconsistent and toward the end, pretty poor. This is an obvious cut, especially after that weird AWOL incident.

Total amount for these 6 players? A little over $74M.

And for fun, below I'll list what I think each player should be worth.

Suh—$17M
Reshad Jones—$8.5M
Andre Branch—$4M
Kiko Alonso—$4M
Cameron Wake—$6M
Lawrence Timmons—5M
Total—$44.5M

So Miami, in my opinion, should be paying about 60% of what it currently pays, which at 44.5M, would somewhat match the performance on the field.

All I have to say is yikes. Miami tried to get cute and show players in the locker room loyalty by offering multi-year, "more money than they're actually worth", contracts. And it's biting us in the ass. Hard.
 
Ross should be putting this front office on blast. Until this team removes these and other players and replaces with young, cheaper players, Miami will not have any sustainability at all. What's amazing is Suh, Branch, Alonso and Timmons were not home-grown, but when Miami does grow talent, they lose it. Great model!
 
It could be a lot worse if not for the amount of youth we have especially in our secondary. I will go along with Kiko, Branch, and Timmons for sure, we rolled the dice on these players and locked them up long term in hopes that these position would have been filled for a couple of years while we brought in youth behind them, the plan hasn't worked out perfectly because of injuries and poor play. Suh is an aberration and definitely not the norm, Dolphins wanted to make a big splash to remain relevant.
 
4th most spent and they are one of the worst in the league. This is a front office and coaching issue. It starts at the top. Everyone in the front office needs to be fired.
 
I agree with Timmons and Branch. If the coaches would put Kiko back in the middle he could return to his 2016 form. He is not a coverage guy.
 
I agree with Timmons and Branch. If the coaches would put Kiko back in the middle he could return to his 2016 form. He is not a coverage guy.

Yeah, but he isn't much of a thumper either. He is good for cleaning up tackles 7-8 yards down the field. I've always felt he looked undersized for a LB and he certainly plays that way. He would be a above average backup.
 
Only one I disagree on is Wake... Even if you want to give him a pass specialist oriented role, he's worth every penny of his contract. Hell only Joey Bosa has more sacks in the last 2 years.... Wake played all of his career as a Dolphins at a discount rate, he's one of the rare players to actually give his team hometown discounts... 8.6M is fair for Wake IMO and replacing his production will cost a whole lot more than 6M per if we let him go...
 
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I notice a lot of the posted arguments about the poor performance of the coaching and the front office in regards to contracts and personnel are tied too far the past. I recommend that we look at their performance from the time Adam Gase became the head coach. Otherwise we will be "cutting off our nose to spite our face", in regards to the front office and coaching staff.
 
I think Timmons is cut. Reports came out that branch played hurt most of the year i expect his play to improve next year. Suh is overpaid but i still support the signing. Say what you want about kiko but i think we paid him too much because our backs were against the wall. I think we overpaid based on our weak overall talent level at the lb position.
 
I think Timmons is cut. Reports came out that branch played hurt most of the year i expect his play to improve next year. Suh is overpaid but i still support the signing. Say what you want about kiko but i think we paid him too much because our backs were against the wall. I think we overpaid based on our weak overall talent level at the lb position.
Our back wasnt really against the wall in Alonso's case. He was a RFA and didn't have any leverage, we easily could have paid him alot less and not be stuck with any additionnal years...
 
I think Timmons is cut. Reports came out that branch played hurt most of the year i expect his play to improve next year. Suh is overpaid but i still support the signing. Say what you want about kiko but i think we paid him too much because our backs were against the wall. I think we overpaid based on our weak overall talent level at the lb position.
I agree...especially the last sentence. I been saying since the beginning of the Gase era, this team loves to point out personnel flaws but are silent when you bring up the decision making that actually goes into your personnel moves.

Hypocritical to say the least.
 
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