Dolphins top 10 according to Apporoximate Value (AV) stats

[roy_miami]

Interesting stat pro-football-reference does where AV: AV -- Approximate Value is our attempt to attach a single number to every player-season since 1950.

Here is a list of the top 20 players in the league from 2014 to give you an idea of the stats worth:

Games Rk Tm G GS AV 1 J.J. Watt HOU 16 16 22 2 Aaron Rodgers GNB 16 16 21 3 DeMarco Murray DAL 16 16 19 4 Russell Wilson SEA 16 16 19 5 Jordy Nelson GNB 16 16 18 6 Mario Williams BUF 16 16 18 7 Le'Veon Bell PIT 16 16 17 8 Marcell Dareus BUF 15 15 17 9 Justin Houston KAN 16 16 17 10 Ndamukong Suh DET 16 16 17 11 Marshal Yanda BAL 16 16 17 12 Tom Brady NWE 16 16 16 13 Drew Brees NOR 16 16 16 14 Antonio Brown PIT 16 16 16 15 Randall Cobb GNB 16 16 16 16 Eddie Lacy GNB 16 16 16 17 Andrew Luck IND 16 16 16 18 Peyton Manning DEN 16 16 16 19 Richard Sherman SEA 16 16 16 20 Josh Sitton GNB 16 16 16

Dolphins top 10 (note- Suh would have been number one and Stills would have made the top 10 also with an AV of 8):

Pos G GS Yrs AV ▾ Ryan Tannehill QB 16 16 2 14 Lamar Miller RB 16 16 2 11 Cameron Wake LB 16 16 5 11 Brent Grimes DB 16 16 7 10 Ja'Wuan James OT 16 16 Rook 9 Mike Pouncey OL 12 12 3 9 Samson Satele C 16 16 7 9 Mike Wallace WR 16 16 5 8 Daryn Colledge T 13 13 8 7 Jarvis Landry WR 16 11 Rook 7 Olivier Vernon DE 16 16 2 7

The Patriots top 10 to compare:

Pos G GS Yrs AV ▾ Tom Brady QB 16 16 14 16 Darrelle Revis DB 16 16 7 14 Julian Edelman WR 14 13 5 12 Rob Gronkowski TE 15 10 4 12 Brandon LaFell WR 16 13 4 11 Rob Ninkovich DE 16 16 8 10 Nate Solder OL 16 16 3 10 Jamie Collins OLB 15 15 1 9 Sebastian Vollmer T 15 15 5 9 Daniel Connolly G 13 13 9 8 Shane Vereen RB 16 6 3 8 Ryan Wendell C 14 12 5 8 Vince Wilfork NT 16 16 10 8

And the top 30 QBs from 2012-2014 (obviously Wilson being at the top will be controversial):

Rk From To Tm G GS AV 1 Russell Wilson 2012 2014 SEA 48 48 51 2 Peyton Manning 2012 2014 DEN 48 48 50 3 Drew Brees 2012 2014 NOR 48 48 48 4 Tom Brady 2012 2014 NWE 48 48 47 5 Aaron Rodgers 2012 2014 GNB 41 41 46 6 Matt Ryan 2012 2014 ATL 48 48 46 7 Andrew Luck 2012 2014 CLT 48 48 44 8 Cam Newton 2012 2014 CAR 46 46 44 9 Tony Romo 2012 2014 DAL 46 46 42 10 Andy Dalton 2012 2014 CIN 48 48 38 11 Philip Rivers 2012 2014 SDG 48 48 38 12 Ben Roethlisberger 2012 2014 PIT 45 45 38 13 Matthew Stafford 2012 2014 DET 48 48 38 14 Colin Kaepernick 2012 2014 SFO 45 39 36 15 Joe Flacco 2012 2014 RAV 48 48 35 16 Eli Manning 2012 2014 NYG 48 48 34 17 Alex Smith 2012 2014 TOT 40 39 34 18 Ryan Tannehill 2012 2014 MIA 48 48 34 19 Robert Griffin 2012 2014 WAS 37 35 33 20 Jay Cutler 2012 2014 CHI 41 41 31 21 Ryan Fitzpatrick 2012 2014 TOT 39 37 29 22 Carson Palmer 2012 2014 TOT 37 37 25 23 Nick Foles 2012 2014 PHI 28 24 20 24 Christian Ponder 2012 2014 MIN 27 26 18 25 Josh Freeman 2012 2013 TOT 20 20 16 26 Sam Bradford 2012 2014 RAM 23 23 15 27 Matt Schaub 2012 2014 TOT 37 24 15 28 Jake Locker 2012 2014 OTI 25 23 14 29 Michael Vick 2012 2014 TOT 27 19 14 30 Geno Smith 2013 2014 NYJ 30 29 13

 

[miamiron]

I stopped at the Russell Wilson nonsense

 

[NBP81]

Whats the QB rankings for 2015 alone?

 

[roy_miami]

Whats the QB rankings for 2015 alone?

http://www.pro-football-reference.c...pos_is_db=Y&draft_pos_is_k=Y&draft_pos_is_p=Y

Its a pretty interesting stat and they kind of nailed the QB ranking with 4 of the top 5 being in the championship games and SuperBowl.

 

[Roman529]

It's all about depth in the NFL.....I think the Seahawks and Pats had the most depth last year....looks like the Pats lost a lot with Revis, Browner and Wilfork no longer there. :up:

 

[NBP81]

http://www.pro-football-reference.c...pos_is_db=Y&draft_pos_is_k=Y&draft_pos_is_p=Y

Its a pretty interesting stat and they kind of nailed the QB ranking with 4 of the top 5 being in the championship games and SuperBowl.

thanks! the list does make alot of sense...

 

[roy_miami]

If you want to look at specific rosters go to teams/starters and roster then click on AV to get a ranking for the team. The Jets one from 2014 is kind of funny, almost all defensive players in the top 10.

 

[NBP81]

If you want to look at specific rosters go to teams/starters and roster then click on AV to get a ranking for the team. The Jets one from 2014 is kind of funny, almost all defensive players in the top 10.

Thanks, this is the site I go to most of the times for analysis, they make it easy to export data to excel... But first time I come across this stat...

 

[Mogwai]

It seems like such a flawed system for a number of reasons, but the conclusions and rankings come off as pretty accurate.

 

[Travis34]

Colledge or Satele over Albert? or Jones or Delmas?

Also that's 11 dolphins and 13 patriots. Not quite 10 lol

 

[roy_miami]

Colledge or Satele over Albert? or Jones or Delmas?

Also that's 11 dolphins and 13 patriots. Not quite 10 lol

Your value is less if you don't play a full season. Plus they tend to value o-line quite high. Which, I guess is in-line with how GMs value them based on salaries.

More than ten in the lists because of ties.

 

[roy_miami]

Top 10 from 2013. Man what garbage. If I said it once I've said it a million times, it was borderline miraculous we were even in prime position for a playoff spot, let alone controlled our own path. Wheeler, Ellerbe, Clabo and Hartline were among the top players on the team. WHEELER!!

AV Ryan Tannehill 25 QB 16 16 11 Brent Grimes* 30 CB 16 16 10 Cameron Wake* 31 LDE 15 15 10 Dannell Ellerbe 28 LB 15 15 8 Randy Starks 30 DT 16 14 8 Olivier Vernon 23 RDE 16 14 8 Philip Wheeler 29 LB 16 16 8 Tyson Clabo 32 RT 15 15 7 Brian Hartline 27 WR 16 15 7 Mike Pouncey* 24 C 14 14 7 Paul Soliai 30 DT 15 15 7 Mike Wallace 27 WR 16 16 7

The 2012 team actually looked halfway respectable, unfortunately for us we had a raw rookie QB.

AV Cameron Wake*+ RDE 16 16 13 Randy Starks* DT 16 16 11 Ryan Tannehill QB 16 16 10 Kevin Burnett LB 16 16 9 Karlos Dansby LB 16 16 9 Richie Incognito* LG 16 16 9 Reshad Jones S 16 16 9 Reggie Bush RB 16 16 8 Chris Clemons S 16 16 8 Brian Hartline WR 16 15 8 Paul Soliai DT 16 16 8

 

[NBP81]

So what those stats say is that Tannehill has been our best player last 2 years?

 

[Dolphin North]

Lost me at Matt Ryan tied with Aaron Rodgers. Ask any team which of those 2 QB's they would want.

 

[roy_miami]

Lost me at Matt Ryan tied with Aaron Rodgers. Ask any team which of those 2 QB's they would want.

Rodgers played 7 fewer games in that stretch than all of those guys at the top so the fact that he's still rated that high is pretty impressive.

If you extrapolate for those missed games Rodgers would be at 54, the highest in the league where he belongs.