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Dolphins v. Falcons - Why the Analysts are Crazy

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Okay. So the Falcons have a high-powered offense, and had a great year last year. I am trying to look at this game objectively, and I'm really sick of hearing everyone overlook us in our first game this season.

So let's look at the facts.

FALCONS D / DOLPHINS D

* While the Falcons high-powered offense remains in tact -- they are replacing 5 starters on defense with players of an equal or lower caliber.

* The Dolphins previously 10th ranked defense has improved depth, improved their secondary, and vastly improved their pass rush.

* John Abraham is a master of the pass rush. But who would you take, Abraham -- or Porter, Taylor (NFL Leading Sack Master - who knows, Strahan's last season?), Wake, Moses, Improved Play of Langford. Falcon fans, you tell me?

* Our offensive line is HUGE compared to Atlanta's undersized front.

ADVANTAGE - Dolphins x 2! We can stop the run better, we can stop the pass better, and we are much more likely to get to the QB.

MATT RYAN / CHAD PENNINGTON

Matt Ryan
87.7 Rating - 265 of 435 - 61.1% - 3440 Yards 16 TDs / 11 INTs

Chad Pennington
97.4 Rating - 321 of 476 - 67.4% - 3653 Yards - 19 TDs / 7 INTs

ADVANTAGE - Pennington! When you consider also that we have a higher potential upside with Tedd Ginn being in his third year...

RODDY WHITE / TEDD GINN

Roddy White

2nd Year - 30 Receptions - 506 Yards - 0 Touchdowns
3rd Year - 83 Receptions - 1202 Yards - 6 Touchdowns

Tedd Ginn

2nd Year - 56 Receptions - 790 Yards - 2 Touchdowns
3rd Year - Potential Breakout

ADVANTAGE - Roddy White - But this is a question mark. Ginn showed flashes of his potential his first two seasons, and normally quiet front offices believes he is ready to break out. The stats show White to be superior. But his play alone is not enough to make up for the difference in this game!

I'm not trying to look at this as one-sided. Michael Turner is as good as they come. But Atlanta's defensive shortcomings are glaring, and won't cut the mustard in Sunday's game.

We are going to take this game.
 
JB-AmatoMedia said:
* While the Falcons high-powered offense remains in tact -- they are replacing 5 starters on defense with players of an equal or lower caliber.

* The Dolphins previously 10th ranked defense has improved depth, improved their secondary, and vastly improved their pass rush.
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-how do you even know the skills of people we replaced?
we cut three 34 and older players, one LB who didn't fit the scheme and lost his job. only the loss CB foxworth was a negative.

- we were 11th ranked defense in points allowed. allowing about .4 points/game more than you guys..

-also, don't you think our players improved? only yours?


you guys know more about the Dolphins and we know more about the falcons; lets not act like we know everything about the other team.
 
UnrealFalcon said:
-how do you even know the skills of people we replaced?
we cut three 34 and older players, one LB who didn't fit the scheme and lost his job. only the loss CB foxworth was a negative.
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The answer is that he does not know. No one knows how this years team will perform. Most coaches state that each year the team is different, and most of the coaches are correct.

you guys know more about the Dolphins and we know more about the falcons; lets not act like we know everything about the other team.
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Another good point. I would emphasize that none of us know how our teams will play. We know about potential, but that is all we know.
 
UnrealFalcon said:
-how do you even know the skills of people we replaced?
we cut three 34 and older players, one LB who didn't fit the scheme and lost his job. only the loss CB foxworth was a negative.

- we were 11th ranked defense in points allowed. allowing about .4 points/game more than you guys..

-also, don't you think our players improved? only yours?


you guys know more about the Dolphins and we know more about the falcons; lets not act like we know everything about the other team.
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did you seriously make an account on FinHeaven and will probably not be on it ever again after we beat you guys on Sunday. i call that a waste of time. if u are gonna go on another teams' fansite, how about use your time wisely and go to another NFC South team. You know, one of the teams that u play twice every year.
 
UnrealFalcon said:
-how do you even know the skills of people we replaced?
we cut three 34 and older players, one LB who didn't fit the scheme and lost his job. only the loss CB foxworth was a negative.

- we were 11th ranked defense in points allowed. allowing about .4 points/game more than you guys..

-also, don't you think our players improved? only yours?


you guys know more about the Dolphins and we know more about the falcons; lets not act like we know everything about the other team.
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I have done my own scouting on the Falcons. And I have to say, your secondary is pretty bad. Signing Brian Williams helps, but not by much.
 
FinHopeful said:
The answer is that he does not know. No one knows how this years team will perform. Most coaches state that each year the team is different, and most of the coaches are correct.



Another good point. I would emphasize that none of us know how our teams will play. We know about potential, but that is all we know.
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Agreed.
 
you haven't done anything but troll and spam all over our boards
 
also, reading the other team's forums doesn't tell you a lot of facts about the other team.
By that logic, reading this forums tells me that Ted Ginn will be an elite WR in one year; joey porter and jason Taylor are a 2 man steel curtain etc.
 
I want to know why ATL is considered a elite team and MIA is considered to just roll over when both teams had great seasons last year but still have a lot to prove.
 
greenmiamicat said:
I want to know why ATL is considered a elite team and MIA is considered to just roll over when both teams had great seasons last year but still have a lot to prove.
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It is because if they acknowledge that Miami is going to be real good again, that means they have to say the Patriots are not the greatest team ever to walk the planet. To make sure they keep talking about the Patriots, they have to bag on the rest of the East. Also, nobody really cares about the NFC South.
 
Nublar7 said:
It is because if they acknowledge that Miami is going to be real good again, that means they have to say the Patriots are not the greatest team ever to walk the planet. To make sure they keep talking about the Patriots, they have to bag on the rest of the East. Also, nobody really cares about the NFC South.
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That actually makes sense
 
UnrealFalcon said:
also, reading the other team's forums doesn't tell you a lot of facts about the other team.
By that logic, reading this forums tells me that Ted Ginn will be an elite WR in one year; joey porter and jason Taylor are a 2 man steel curtain etc.
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Well Roddy White was terrible in his second year, and look at his 3rd year stats. Was it Ryan? Yes. But Ginn is coming into his 3rd and had better seasons than White had in his first two, so to say that Roddy went from 'bad' to 'elite' in one year was probably thought to be absurd as well. Most believe Ginn will put up better stats that years past. Top 10? I dont know. But certainly in the top half of the nfl's best receivers.
 
Miami's Olinemen weigh an average of 315, while the Falcons Dline weigh an average of 280. All three of your starting LBs are an average of 230. Your corners are really undersized. Im not saying you guys suck or that we are gonna kill you. But Miami is the bigger bader team in this one.

Atlanta struggle mighty against the run, and Miami is gonna want to dictate the clock in this game. Also, Ill take Porter and JT over Baker and your RT anyday. The fact Miami has to edge rushers is gonna help Crowder blitz the middle. All Im saying is Miami is the big bader team.
 
there just isn't a way to shut down all players you put 8 in the box-- roddy and jenkins will be 1 on 1
you put 2 players on roddy- then turners get more room and Gonzalez is on 1 on 1
you put one safety on roddy and the other on gonzo- turner gets even more room

doesn't mean your players can't match 1 on 1 with them, but IT Creates mismatches. like the wildcat
 
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