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Don't believe the hype! Butlers still in play.

I hope this is the case because I got really excited seeing that Groh was going to GT...I figured that was a sign that Butler is the man for the job...but A. Schefter is rarely wrong about this type of stuff, we're not talking Mort here lol...
 
I can hardly till we sign Butler and then the years of the "Butler did it" jokes....
 
If Im understanding this correct, the news of Groh signing with Ga.Tech came from an ESPN article, and the no Groh/Butler news was from a Schefter twitter.

As for the credibility of Schefter its usually spot on,however that same palm beach post article sites Adam Schefter as reportint the Butler interview as taking place today? so Schefter has some how contridicted himself unless of course he knows/knew something already?

In any event Im going to be pessimistic on this one I dont see Butler coming now,maybe the steelers are jumping into the mix late and trying to pursue Butler to stay(how weird would that be...yes you can interview our guy but if you wanna hire him we are gonna try like keck to keep him...just say no up front)

Today will tell
 
I just have the feeling that Butler is just using the interview as leverage with the Steelers. I'm just not that excited about our in house option, Bowles.
 
Mozark_Finfan said:
I just have the feeling that Butler is just using the interview as leverage with the Steelers. I'm just not that excited about our in house option, Bowles.
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what leverage does he have ? they are not getting rid of lebeau
 
IMO it depends how you parse Adam's paragraph whether he's personally developed some inside information or some peripheral ESPN eye-candy used her credibility to extract this information from a smitten assistant to towel boy. Makes a big difference since I agree his sources are usually (but not always) pretty accurate.

ESPN's Heather Dinich reporting Al Groh will be defensive coordinator at Georgia Tech; also, Dolphins not expected to hire Keith Butler.
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Unfortunately, it sounds to me like Adam Schefter is in the know on this one and that the PBP just hasn't heard what Schefter has regarding the team's interest/non-interest in Butler.

The news that cycled through the people at the PBP was that Groh decided to take the Georgia Tech job. I think the PBP people just immediately assumed, as we all would, that this clears the way for Keith Butler to be hired. They're likely aware now what Schefter said, and they're scrambling to confirm it themselves.
 
ckparrothead said:
Unfortunately, it sounds to me like Adam Schefter is in the know on this one and that the PBP just hasn't heard what Schefter has regarding the team's interest/non-interest in Butler.

The news that cycled through the people at the PBP was that Groh decided to take the Georgia Tech job. I think the PBP people just immediately assumed, as we all would, that this clears the way for Keith Butler to be hired. They're likely aware now what Schefter said, and they're scrambling to confirm it themselves.
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Schefter is quoted in the PBP as the soruce saying Butler was still in the mix an hour after his twitter entry.
 
mmikel30 said:
what leverage does he have ? they are not getting rid of lebeau
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The heir apparent getting offered a coordinator gig in Miami sounds like nice leverage for a big pay raise to stay put in Pittsburgh until Lebeau retires.
 
TheDon74 said:
Schefter is quoted in the PBP as the soruce saying Butler was still in the mix an hour after his twitter entry.
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maybe Dinich got her "B's" mixed up. she could have wrote Butler when she meant Bowles
 
I think that the right candidate for the DC job from the start has been Todd Bowles. I had openly wondered if looking around at other guys like Groh was just a pretense to make sure that you actually did your homework and interviewed other guys before deciding on an in-house candidate, because you never want to approach a decision like this with tunnel vision.

Butler would have been a stronger hire, but not by much IMO. And definitely not at all if his heart's not in it. From what I've heard of the guy he seems to be a very high loyalty kind of coach. I think the one job he'd feel comfortable leaving Pitt for right now would be the Seattle job. I think he'd love to return there and coach the defense, but for now he's been a Steeler for a long time and I take it he's going to keep patiently waiting for Dick LeBeau to retire. He's got a strong relationship with Mike Tomlin, he coached LBs at Memphis when Tomlin was coaching DBs.

I know the mile high view on Butler looked wonderful but I've been pretty carefully to stipulate that it IS just a mile high view, because there's something that just didn't add up for me about him. It seemed three years too late when it comes to him accepting a DC job.

I wouldn't be so quick to burn Todd Bowles at the stake for the woes of a secondary that feature two rookie starting CBs, when that has rarely ever been tried in all of modern NFL history, and even more rarely with any kind of success. Bowles has been a very strong position coach, a head coaching candidate, I believe he's an assistant head coach right now if I'm not mistaken...this was inevitable.

The one thing that bothered me about Paul Pasqualoni is he didn't seem to be very flexible. When you can't find a way to make Joey Porter and Jason Taylor work, when you can't find a way to use statistically one of the most dangerous pass rushers in the NFL (Cameron Wake), I think that speaks to a lack of flexibility in your schemes. Todd Bowles is younger and I hope more flexible. I hope he has better luck getting the front seven to sync well with the back four...because Pasqualoni was failing at that.

What I didn't like was the idea of bringing in an Al Groh who has been in college for the last 10 years and doesn't know the NFL game, its coaches or its players. He would have to learn all about them on the fly and he's an older guy, I'm not sure he would want to work the hellish hours that would require.
 
I'm on the bandwagon hoping that if it was going to be Bowles than it would have been announced the same day as the firing.
 
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