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Don't put the Colts loss all on the D... A look at the play that lost us the game

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In my opinion the D did in fact play poorly against the Colts D. However, the fact of the matter is that Peyton Manning is the best QB in football and he has the help of a great offensive mind in Tom Moore. (I know he's no longer the coordinator but he's still there on the sidelines) The bottom line is that those 2 are going to make 9/10 NFL defenses look stupid most of the time. When you play the Colts, you have to play like they are going to put up 30 points.
When you play the Colts, you cannot settle for 4 long field goals, you have to get those drives into the red zone and score TDs. I think that in terms of an offensive gameplan, we were creative and moved the ball with ease between the 20s, but the stalled drives and miserable play calling on the cusp of the red zone was just terrible. Gotta get into the red zone more than twice, gotta get into the END zone more than twice.
Now to the play that lost us the game. We had a 3rd and 6 (or 8 I forgot) on the Colts 35 with 4 minutes left in the game with a 20-20 tie. At that juncture of the game, you absolutely positively CANNOT play conservatively and just go for the field goal. You give Peyton Manning the football down 3 with 4 minutes left, and you seriously don't think he's gonna take his team down the field and score? CMON! You have to go for the juggular there and win the damn football game. I think that was just horrible, and if we threw for a first down there, I really think we would have won the game.
I really hate Dan Henning for that one right now.
 
i thought it was a horrible call as well, line was blocking well bess and ginn were getting open, it wasn't like it was third and 15 and our defense had been stopping the colts all night.
 
It's irresponsible to break a loss down to one play. You are your body of work for that day.

The defense was consistently atrocious.
 
The loss rests solely on Gibril Wilson and Channing Crowders inability to cover and tackle...

thats it...

nothing more, nothing less..

you can add to it all you want.. but to me it starts there.. the fact that the defense basically had the night off and still couldnt hold the colts down cannot be overlooked because of one bad offensive call on a 3rd and six and ted ginns inability to pull down a pass while the defender was pulling him down by the shoulder pads..

you can run as much time off the clock as you want but when your opponents two touchdown drives eat up less than one minute of game time(total, 2 drives - :12, :32).. it really doesnt matter much what you did on 3rd and 6th
 
You can pick a play here and there...but the defense lost this game...pure and simple. They gave up 27 points in 15 mins...and when you take away the waste, it's even less time.

When you control the clock for 45 mins...and score 23 points...you should win.
 
Undoubtedly a horrible call. However Peyton Manning definitely didn't play his best football on Monday Night. 14 completions for 305 yards doesn't show his excellence, but instead our ineptitude. We shouldn't have to strategize offensively to keep our own defense off the field. That displays the ineffectiveness of this front office to fill this team with quality defenders.
 
Well, Henning's play calling week2 was definitely better than in week1.

Still made some poor choices, though - that 3rd and 6 being the worst one.
 
Dude, the call on 3rd and 6 was terrible, but the Colts needed only seconds to score on all their scoring drives. I don't care how good Peyton Manning is, when you have the ball for all but 15 minutes of a 60 minute game, you win that ****ing game. The D was non-existent and deserves way more blame than that stupid call.
 
sure, you could say that^

but who knows how different the game would have been, or the defenses mentality if the score was 27-20 and there was less than 2 minutes left in the game.


anyways, it was just a tough loss all around but at least there was definite improvement from the Falcons game.
 
The defense lost the game, 27 points in 15 minutes should tell you that, every time we scored, the defense gave up points on the next possession, hard to build momentum that way.
 
The defensive effort was honestly quite shameful. I'm sad that veteran leaders like Joey Porter and Joey Porter allowed their defense to play like that, so sloppy, without any fire, to give in so easily. Channing Crowder was literally boxed out of plays on defense that i don't think he was even pushing back against the offensive lineman on. One play the Dolphins defense didn't even set, which made the great game reader Peyton Manning so bewildered even he had to burn a timeout. It was absolutely pathetic. There is no defense for it, no justification. As good as Manning and the Colts are, it wasn't even a display of their own skills on Monday Night. Jim Sorgi would have shredder this defense apart.
 
I was very surprised withthe play calling for all the complaining about Penny he was hot onthird downs. He converted 10 3rd conversions for firsts with the passing game. He hit a few for over 15 yards, why in the heck do you call a run on 3rd and 6 is beyond me. The team was conservative and that falls on the coaching whether it be Henning or the ultimate decision maker Sparano.
 
THAT is the exact play that I thought to myself that we were in trouble. The fact that we called a VERY conservative play, with more then 3mins left in the game AND having Payton waiting was trouble.

That's the call in the game where we shot ourselves in the foot. We had them against the ropes. Teams like NE, Pitt and others would have been more aggressive. Me personally I would have gone for it on 4th down and short IF i didn't get it on 3rd down. Obviously not trusting the defense but my point would be to stay aggressive
 
THAT is the exact play that I thought to myself that we were in trouble. The fact that we called a VERY conservative play, with more then 3mins left in the game AND having Payton waiting was trouble.

That's the call in the game where we shot ourselves in the foot. We had them against the ropes. Teams like NE, Pitt and others would have been more aggressive. Me personally I would have gone for it on 4th down and short IF i didn't get it on 3rd down. Obviously not trusting the defense but my point would be to stay aggressive
 
No doubt, i knew we'd lose 100% after that 3rd and 6 call. I didn't have faith in the Dolphins defense, and they shouldn't have either. Textbook wise i guess it makes sense (though i wouldn't even go that for, yeah the Colts would be surprised by a 3rd and 6 draw but most likely not enough to surrender SEVEN yards), but not when you look at the performance of the defensive unit.
 
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