Draft Day Trades: Value Chart

[Bpk]

With the draft coming up, a lot of us are going through permutations that include the Dolphins trading up/down.

For those curious what we'd have to give up or get for such trades, here's a useful link to a 2003 Gil Brandt article that shows a Value Chart used by most teams to assess the value of each pick in the draft.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/6330687

The chart is used to assess how to trade picks-for-picks.

So, for example, if the Phins move up from #9 to #7 what would they have to give? The answer, based on the chart, is the #9 pick plus a third round pick (assuming we have the ninth spot in the third round of the draft. Usually it alternates by round so if you pick ninth in round one, you pick ninth LAST in round two, but ninth again in round three).

I'd love to see the Phins trade up for Joe Thomas if he miraculously falls as low as #7. But, if he only falls to the fifth pick, we'd have to give up our #9 AND our second round pick. Not worth it, in my opinion. Especially as Randy Mueller's history is to make great early round picks and not so great later round picks.

Hope this helps you prep for the draft better.

:dolphins:

 

[Elliott 1]

My God! Teams with 22 free agents who are cutting players left and right don't trade up in the draft!!! We trade down in the draft!!!

Teams like Pittsburgh and Jacksonville, who don't have holes in their roster trade up. They don't need their draft picks. WE NEED MORE PICKS NOT LESS.

 

[Bpk]

My God! Teams with 22 free agents who are cutting players left and right don't trade up in the draft!!! We trade down in the draft!!!

Teams like Pittsburgh and Jacksonville, who don't have holes in their roster trade up. They don't need their draft picks. WE NEED MORE PICKS NOT LESS.

You're right, dude. I know you're right.... but I just can;t help it... I DREAM of ever having a REAL left tackle again so our QB has time to throw the ball!

That would help so much, especially with a QB with reduced mobility who needs more time to make decisions than some QB's.

B.

 

[cnc66]

You're right, dude. I know you're right.... but I just can;t help it... I DREAM of ever having a REAL left tackle again so our QB has time to throw the ball!

That would help so much, especially with a QB with reduced mobility who needs more time to make decisions than some QB's.

B.

me too bro... EVERYTHING works better behind a good line.. on either side of the ball.

 

[JGray]

I could see trade up for Johnson if he is at 5, but no one else.

 

[musphinzfan]

D mac(although hes a FA) wasnt a bad LT it was our LG and C play that killed us....The combine is gonna help us slide down to create more picks hopefully.

 

[jlfin]

I could see trade up for Johnson if he is at 5, but no one else.

I read on PFT talk that the Jets would like to move up to the top 3 in the draft to pick Peterson or Johnson. They have the 24th pick. They would have to give up their entire draft and some players to do that.
I think if the Phins want Quinn the only team they really have to worry about is the Vikings.
Despite what many people think, a team is built around a QB and right now the Phins are nothing but a bunch of question marks at that position.

 

[MrEd]

you know what would make me "really" mad. and i'm already ticked off by kris dielman's agent's statement that reveals the "cheapo" that is in charge of personell...

would be to trade up. if we allow kris dielman and/or joey porter to sign elsewhere instead of giving them "fair market value".

And since the market is what it is....it is considered "fair market value" to give dielman $7mi per year and a 14mil guaranteed for 7 years... not to mention that he is "young". He is only in his mid 20's.

So if "cheapo" Mueller fails to sign at least "one" of these guys and then gives up multiple draft picks to move up for a player that wont start for us this year like Brady Quinn? I would be lit!!!

And I think that Dielman makes more sense than anything because who's to know that a 2nd round G/C will be any good?

 

[MrEd]

I read on PFT talk that the Jets would like to move up to the top 3 in the draft to pick Peterson or Johnson. They have the 24th pick. They would have to give up their entire draft and some players to do that.
I think if the Phins want Quinn the only team they really have to worry about is the Vikings.
Despite what many people think, a team is built around a QB and right now the Phins are nothing but a bunch of question marks at that position.

I would be pissed if MIA picked Quinn. Because we lose out on Dielman "and" pick someone who wont start for us for the next 2 or 3 years??? "And" give up another first day pick to draft himi??? :fire:

Quinn doesnt fill an "immediate" need. And who's to say he will be any better than Cleo Lemon? Much less, Daunte Culpepper

I would be totally against drafting Quinn. Even at #9. I'd rather go Landry, Ginn, or even Okoye(who I've been against) than Quinn.

 

[jlfin]

I would be pissed if MIA picked Quinn. Because we lose out on Dielman "and" pick someone who wont start for us for the next 2 or 3 years??? "And" give up another first day pick to draft himi??? :fire:

Quinn doesnt fill an "immediate" need. And who's to say he will be any better than Cleo Lemon? Much less, Daunte Culpepper

I would be totally against drafting Quinn. Even at #9. I'd rather go Landry, Ginn, or even Okoye(who I've been against) than Quinn.

Ginn over Quinn?? Are you kidding. You just lost any credibility with that statement. :sidelol: :sidelol:

 

[MrEd]

Ginn over Quinn?? Are you kidding. You just lost any credibility with that statement. :sidelol: :sidelol:

You are the one who just lost credibility. "Many" draft "experts" have Ginn going ahead of Quinn!

Do you even research before you make comments? Kiper Jr, Mayock, McShay all have Ginn going to MIN and Quinn slipping past them. So, :rolleyes2

 

[JFoxx]

I think it's obvious that with the crazy dollars that has/will be spent on this year's limited f/a market, we're going to have to do a better job in the draft. What that probably means is that we are likely to seek a way to get MORE draft picks to which to fill our holes. I'd be pretty shocked if we trade away picks to move up to get anyone. I think they'd consider an exception if they thought someone would be a pretty good shot at an elite player, but that's a pretty BIG gamble to take when we have so many hole with so few picks. I wouldn't count us moving up unless someone is willing to go away from the chart #'s you pointed out and we get a bargain because of the depth of players in this year's draft. But I wouldn't count on that. I think it is much more likely we trade down a few spots to pick up another pick this year.