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I know there are a million of these lists but it looks like Rivers is rated fairly low, dont you think we can get him later on 3rd round maybe? Go after a OL early. Do you think there is a chance of landing a top notched OL through FA, (like Orlando Pace)?


this list is from http://scout.theinsiders.com/a.z?s=211&p=9&c=12&yr=2004&nid=83&pid=10
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http://scout.theinsiders.com/a.z?s=211&p=9&c=12&yr=2004&nid=83

Pos Overall
Rank Rating Name Yr Ht/Wt/40 College Home
QB 1 Ben Roethlisberger JR 6-5/240/- Miami (Oh) Findlay, OH
WR 2 Larry Fitzgerald SO 6-3/210/- Pittsburgh Wayne, PA
QB 3 Eli Manning SR 6-4/215/- Mississippi New Orleans, LA
OT 4 Shawn Andrews JR 6-5/330/- Arkansas Camden, AR
OT 5 Robert Gallery SR 6-7.5/320/- Iowa Winthrop, IA
WR 6 Roy Williams SR 6-4/210/- Texas Odessa, TX
S 7 Sean Taylor JR 6-3/225/- Miami (Fl) Miami, FL
DT 8 Vince Wilfork JR 6-2/350/- Miami (Fl) Lantana, FL
TE 9 Kellen Winslow Jr. JR 6-5/250/4.55 Miami (Fl) San Diego, CA
DE 10 Will Smith SR 6-4/263/- Ohio State Utica, NY
RB 11 Kevin Jones JR 6-0/225/- Virginia Tech Springfield, PA
DE 12 David Pollack JR 6-2/275/- Georgia Lithonia, GA
OLB 13 Derrick Johnson JR 6-4/230/- Texas Waco, TX
RB 14 Steven Jackson JR 6-3/233/- Oregon State Las Vegas, NV
OLB 15 Karlos Dansby SR 6-5/235/- Auburn Birmingham, AL
WR 16 Reggie Williams JR 6-4/220/- Washington Lakewood, WA
CB 17 Marlin Jackson JR 6-1/199/4.38 Michigan Sharon, PA
WR 18 Michael Clayton JR 6-4/200/- LSU Baton Rouge, LA
MLB 19 Jonathan Vilma SR 6-2/225/- Miami (Fl) Coral Gables, FL
OLB 20 D.J. Williams SR 6-2/245/- Miami (Fl) Concord, CA
DT 21 Tommie Harris JR 6-3/288/4.97 Oklahoma Killeen, TX
CB 22 DeAngelo Hall JR 5-11/195/4.35 Virginia Tech Chesape, VA
RB 23 Carnell Williams JR 5-11/204/- Auburn Attalla, AL
OT 24 Vernon Carey SR 6-5/363/- Miami (Fl) Miami, FL
DT 25 Randy Starks JR 6-4/312/- Maryland Waldorf, MD
CB 26 Derrick Strait SR 5-11/194/4.47 Oklahoma Austin, TX
WR 27 Rashaun Woods SR 6-2/190/- Oklahoma State Ok City, OK
OLB 28 Teddy Lehman SR 6-2/243/- Oklahoma Fort Gibson, OK
CB 29 Chris Gamble JR 6-2/180/4.47 Ohio State Fort Lauderd, FL
WR 30 Michael Jenkins SR 6-5/215/- Ohio State Tampa, FL
DT 31 DeMarco McNeil SR 6-2/300/- Auburn Prichard, AL
WR 32 Lee Evans SR 5-11/202/- Wisconsin Bedford, OH
QB 33 J.P. Losman SR 6-3/220/4.65 Tulane Los Angeles, CA
OLB 34 Dontarrious Thomas SR 6-4/238/- Auburn Perry, GA
WR 35 Mark Clayton JR 5-11/175/4.50 Oklahoma Arlington, TX
QB 36 Andrew Walter JR 6-5/222/- Arizona State Grand Junc, CO
C 37 Ben Wilkerson JR 6-4/300/- LSU Hemphill, TX
DE 38 Mathias Kiwanuka SO 6-8/246/- Boston College In, IN
OT 39 Michael Munoz JR 6-6/305/- Tennessee Cincinnati, OH
WR 40 Braylon Edwards JR 6-3/206/- Michigan Harper Woods, MI
DT 41 Marcus Tubbs SR 6-4/310/- Texas Desoto, TX
CB 42 Nathan Vasher SR 5-11/180/4.49 Texas Texarkana, TX
OG 43 Chris Snee JR 6-3/331/- Boston College Montrose, PA
OLB 44 Michael Boulware SR 6-3/222/- Florida State Colum, SC
RB 45 Greg Jones SR 6-1/248/- Florida State Beaufort, SC
TE 46 Ben Troupe SR 6-4/262/- Florida Augusta, GA
DE 47 Jonathan Jackson JR 6-3.5/240/- Oklahoma Houston, TX
DE 48 Antwan Odom JR 6-5/277/- Alabama Irvington, AL
DE 49 Chris Canty JR 6-7/280/- Virginia Charlotte, NC
DE 50 Kenechi Udeze SO 6-3/270/- USC Los Angeles, CA

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Pos Pos
Rank Rating Name Yr Ht/Wt/40 College Home
QB 1 Ben Roethlisberger JR 6-5/240/- Miami (Oh) Findlay, OH
QB 2 Eli Manning SR 6-4/215/- Mississippi New Orleans, LA
QB 3 J.P. Losman SR 6-3/220/4.65 Tulane Los Angeles, CA
QB 4 Andrew Walter JR 6-5/222/- Arizona State Grand Junc, CO
QB 5 Josh Harris SR 6-3/238/- Bowling Green Westerville, OH
QB 6 David Greene JR 6-3/213/- Georgia Snellville, GA
QB 7 Brad Smith SO 6-2/205/- Missouri Youngstown, OH
QB 8 Philip Rivers SR 6-5/236/- North Carolina State Athens, AL
QB 9 Kyle Orton JR 6-4/223/- Purdue Runnells, IA
QB 10 John Navarre SR 6-6/228/- Michigan Cudahy, WI
QB 11 Luke McCown SR 6-4/210/- Louisiana Tech Jacksonville, TX
QB 12 Cody Pickett SR 6-4/215/- Washington Caldwell, ID
QB 13 Casey Clausen SR 6-4/225/- Tennessee Mission Hills, CA
QB 14 Matt Kegel SR 6-5/239/- Washington State Havre, MT
QB 15 Jason White SR 6-2/224/- Oklahoma Tuttle, OK
QB 16 Robert Kent SR 6-4/220/4.75 Jackson State Indianola, MS
QB 17 Scott Rislov SR 6-1/210/4.99 San Jose State Pierre, SD
QB 18 Jared Lorenzen SR 6-4/260/- Kentucky Fort Thomas, KY
QB 19 Timmy Chang JR 6-1.5/210/4.99 Hawaii Honolulu, HI
QB 20 Danny Wimprine JR 6-0/215/5.01 Memphis River Ridge, LA
QB NR Chris Rix JR 6-4/217/- Florida State Santa Margarita, CA
QB NR Matt Schaub SR 6-4/230/5.15 Virginia West Chester, PA
QB NR Rod Rutherford SR 6-3/220/- Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA
QB NR Bradlee Van_Pelt SR 6-2/225/4.90 Colorado State Santa Barbara, CA
QB NR Derek Anderson JR 6-6/234/- Oregon State Scappoose, OR
QB NR Dan Orlovsky JR 6-4/220/5.11 Connecticut Shelton, CT
QB NR Nathan Chandler SR 6-6/250/- Iowa Southlake, TX
QB NR Gino Guidugli JR 6-3/220/- Cincinnati Fort Thomas, KY
QB NR Ryan Schneider SR 6-2.5/230/- Central Florida Plantation, FL
QB NR Keith Heckendorf SR 6-1/200/- St. Cloud State Mosinee, WI
QB NR Jon Beutjer SR 6-5/211/- Illinois Wheaton, IL
QB NR Charlie Whitehurst SO 6-4/215/- Clemson Alpharetta, GA
QB NR Jim Sorgi SR 6-5/199/- Wisconsin Fraser, MI
QB NR Jeff Smoker SR 6-2.5/215/5.01 Michigan State Manheim, PA
QB NR Matt Jones JR 6-5.5/225/- Arkansas Fort Smith, AR
QB NR Ryan Dinwiddie SR 6-0.5/190/- Boise State Elk Grove, CA
QB NR Craig Krenzel SR 6-4/225/- Ohio State Sterling Heights, MI
QB NR Chris Lewis SR 6-3/215/- Stanford Long Beach, CA
QB NR Adam Hall SR 6-2/210/4.89 San Diego State Austin, TX
QB NR Zack Mills JR 6-3/216/- Penn State Ijamsville, MD
QB NR Tate Bennett JR 6-6/230/- Weber State Blanding, UT
QB NR Matt Mauck JR 6-2/217/- LSU Jasper, IN
QB NR Jason Fife SR 6-4/222/- Oregon Lake Elsinore, CA
QB NR Russ Michna SR 6-3/230/- Western Illinois Hoffman Estates, IL
QB NR Marko Glavic SR 6-6/225/- Lafayette Toronto, ON
QB NR Ryan Flanigan SR 6-5/230/- California, Davis Sacramento, CA
QB NR Ell Roberson SR 6-1/205/- Kansas State Baytown, TX
QB NR Bruce Eugene SO 6-1/207/- Grambling New Orleans, LA
QB NR Andy Hall SR 6-3/210/- Delaware Cheraw, SC
QB NR Kevin Eakin SR 6-1/210/- Fordham Live Oak, FL

Staff Edit: You need to provide a link for this. You must cite where it originated. That goes for everyone. There's been far too much of this lately. Thanks :)
 
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I'm not saying we have to go after Rivers in round 1, but, he will not likely last to round 3 and our slot. Hard to say. It will depend on the rest of the workouts.

Also, there are several other draft boards (I don't have any idea whose this is), that have him higher.

Now, if the consensus were that he were ranked 10-12th among QB's by almost everyone - then yes, that would make you say, "wait, don't go for this guy."

Ultimately, however, the Dolphins have about 12 people who've rated the guy for every individual's draft board. And, they will go by their own scout ratings rather than what the amateur's think.

This year will be a big test for Rick Spielman. Now he'll have control over the choice, not just the scouting. Will be interesting to see a) how he does in the draft; and b) how well he drafts to fill certain needs.
 
There is NO WAY that Rivers will fall to the 3rd. I doubt he'll even drop to the 2nd. He is the third best QB in the draft (him or Losman) and there are a ton of teams out there who need a QB.
 
Isn't Andrew Walter staying? I doubt he comes out, but if he does, he should be ahead of Rivers.

I like Josh Harris in the 3rd.
 
Originally posted by phinphan13
I know there are a million of these lists but it looks like Rivers is rated fairly low, dont you think we can get him later on 3rd round maybe? Go after a OL early. Do you think there is a chance of landing a top notched OL through FA, (like Orlando Pace)?

Pos Overall
Rank Rating Name Yr Ht/Wt/40 College Home
QB 1 Ben Roethlisberger JR 6-5/240/- Miami (Oh) Findlay, OH
WR 2 Larry Fitzgerald SO 6-3/210/- Pittsburgh Wayne, PA
QB 3 Eli Manning SR 6-4/215/- Mississippi New Orleans, LA
OT 4 Shawn Andrews JR 6-5/330/- Arkansas Camden, AR
OT 5 Robert Gallery SR 6-7.5/320/- Iowa Winthrop, IA
WR 6 Roy Williams SR 6-4/210/- Texas Odessa, TX
S 7 Sean Taylor JR 6-3/225/- Miami (Fl) Miami, FL
DT 8 Vince Wilfork JR 6-2/350/- Miami (Fl) Lantana, FL
TE 9 Kellen Winslow Jr. JR 6-5/250/4.55 Miami (Fl) San Diego, CA
DE 10 Will Smith SR 6-4/263/- Ohio State Utica, NY
RB 11 Kevin Jones JR 6-0/225/- Virginia Tech Springfield, PA
DE 12 David Pollack JR 6-2/275/- Georgia Lithonia, GA
OLB 13 Derrick Johnson JR 6-4/230/- Texas Waco, TX
RB 14 Steven Jackson JR 6-3/233/- Oregon State Las Vegas, NV
OLB 15 Karlos Dansby SR 6-5/235/- Auburn Birmingham, AL
WR 16 Reggie Williams JR 6-4/220/- Washington Lakewood, WA
CB 17 Marlin Jackson JR 6-1/199/4.38 Michigan Sharon, PA
WR 18 Michael Clayton JR 6-4/200/- LSU Baton Rouge, LA
MLB 19 Jonathan Vilma SR 6-2/225/- Miami (Fl) Coral Gables, FL
OLB 20 D.J. Williams SR 6-2/245/- Miami (Fl) Concord, CA
DT 21 Tommie Harris JR 6-3/288/4.97 Oklahoma Killeen, TX
CB 22 DeAngelo Hall JR 5-11/195/4.35 Virginia Tech Chesape, VA
RB 23 Carnell Williams JR 5-11/204/- Auburn Attalla, AL
OT 24 Vernon Carey SR 6-5/363/- Miami (Fl) Miami, FL
DT 25 Randy Starks JR 6-4/312/- Maryland Waldorf, MD
CB 26 Derrick Strait SR 5-11/194/4.47 Oklahoma Austin, TX
WR 27 Rashaun Woods SR 6-2/190/- Oklahoma State Ok City, OK
OLB 28 Teddy Lehman SR 6-2/243/- Oklahoma Fort Gibson, OK
CB 29 Chris Gamble JR 6-2/180/4.47 Ohio State Fort Lauderd, FL
WR 30 Michael Jenkins SR 6-5/215/- Ohio State Tampa, FL
DT 31 DeMarco McNeil SR 6-2/300/- Auburn Prichard, AL
WR 32 Lee Evans SR 5-11/202/- Wisconsin Bedford, OH
QB 33 J.P. Losman SR 6-3/220/4.65 Tulane Los Angeles, CA
OLB 34 Dontarrious Thomas SR 6-4/238/- Auburn Perry, GA
WR 35 Mark Clayton JR 5-11/175/4.50 Oklahoma Arlington, TX
QB 36 Andrew Walter JR 6-5/222/- Arizona State Grand Junc, CO
C 37 Ben Wilkerson JR 6-4/300/- LSU Hemphill, TX
DE 38 Mathias Kiwanuka SO 6-8/246/- Boston College In, IN
OT 39 Michael Munoz JR 6-6/305/- Tennessee Cincinnati, OH
WR 40 Braylon Edwards JR 6-3/206/- Michigan Harper Woods, MI
DT 41 Marcus Tubbs SR 6-4/310/- Texas Desoto, TX
CB 42 Nathan Vasher SR 5-11/180/4.49 Texas Texarkana, TX
OG 43 Chris Snee JR 6-3/331/- Boston College Montrose, PA
OLB 44 Michael Boulware SR 6-3/222/- Florida State Colum, SC
RB 45 Greg Jones SR 6-1/248/- Florida State Beaufort, SC
TE 46 Ben Troupe SR 6-4/262/- Florida Augusta, GA
DE 47 Jonathan Jackson JR 6-3.5/240/- Oklahoma Houston, TX
DE 48 Antwan Odom JR 6-5/277/- Alabama Irvington, AL
DE 49 Chris Canty JR 6-7/280/- Virginia Charlotte, NC
DE 50 Kenechi Udeze SO 6-3/270/- USC Los Angeles, CA

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Pos Pos
Rank Rating Name Yr Ht/Wt/40 College Home
QB 1 Ben Roethlisberger JR 6-5/240/- Miami (Oh) Findlay, OH
QB 2 Eli Manning SR 6-4/215/- Mississippi New Orleans, LA
QB 3 J.P. Losman SR 6-3/220/4.65 Tulane Los Angeles, CA
QB 4 Andrew Walter JR 6-5/222/- Arizona State Grand Junc, CO
QB 5 Josh Harris SR 6-3/238/- Bowling Green Westerville, OH
QB 6 David Greene JR 6-3/213/- Georgia Snellville, GA
QB 7 Brad Smith SO 6-2/205/- Missouri Youngstown, OH
QB 8 Philip Rivers SR 6-5/236/- North Carolina State Athens, AL
QB 9 Kyle Orton JR 6-4/223/- Purdue Runnells, IA
QB 10 John Navarre SR 6-6/228/- Michigan Cudahy, WI
QB 11 Luke McCown SR 6-4/210/- Louisiana Tech Jacksonville, TX
QB 12 Cody Pickett SR 6-4/215/- Washington Caldwell, ID
QB 13 Casey Clausen SR 6-4/225/- Tennessee Mission Hills, CA
QB 14 Matt Kegel SR 6-5/239/- Washington State Havre, MT
QB 15 Jason White SR 6-2/224/- Oklahoma Tuttle, OK
QB 16 Robert Kent SR 6-4/220/4.75 Jackson State Indianola, MS
QB 17 Scott Rislov SR 6-1/210/4.99 San Jose State Pierre, SD
QB 18 Jared Lorenzen SR 6-4/260/- Kentucky Fort Thomas, KY
QB 19 Timmy Chang JR 6-1.5/210/4.99 Hawaii Honolulu, HI
QB 20 Danny Wimprine JR 6-0/215/5.01 Memphis River Ridge, LA
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No way we take an OLB...that's the last thing we need...we will draft Reggie Williams at 13(if not already taken)
 
Need a link. Copyright laws. :)
 
Re: Re: Draft Rankings and QB rankings

Originally posted by CirclingWagons
No way we take an OLB...that's the last thing we need...we will draft Reggie Williams at 13(if not already taken)
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OL = Offensive Lineman, I know we dont need any LB's
 
Re: Re: Re: Draft Rankings and QB rankings

Originally posted by phinphan13



OL = Offensive Lineman, I know we dont need any LB's
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I'm a Bills fan btw;)

at 13th you have us taking OLB Derrick Johnson. The only way I see us drafting an OLB is in the 5, 6, or 7th rounds...we will most likely draft Reggie williams if available
 
Won't Losman be falling after having a bad showing recently? There's an article around here that really laid into him as well as Rivers. There was another QB that had a good showing, can't think of his name and he's not on the above list either.
 
CW - I don't think this is a mock draft - just player rankings. Big difference. I don't see Miami taking an OLB at #20 either.
 
Originally posted by Rebar71
I don't think this is a mock draft - just player rankings. Big difference. I don't see Miami taking an OLB at #20 either.
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my mistake than...:o
 
I only grabbed top 20 I will edit and add all the QB's the site had
 
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