Drafting Ronnie Was Our BEST MOVE ! !

[AU_raven]

The Giants, Bills, Saints, Jaguars, Bengals and Chargers offensive lines aren't nearly as bad as the one we're sporting here in Miami.

Seriously man, you can't believe that.

Rudi Johnson is a former AU running back. I can't remember the last high profile AU back that was a bust.:D

 

[FaninPatsyLand]

Look up all those rosters man....the Saints had Spencer Folau in their starting lineup and if you thought the Giants line was so great why dont you ask Kurt Warner how he felt about it. Seriously man, you can't believe those O-lines are MUCH better than Carey,James,McKinney,McIntosh,McDougle

The same lazy McDougle who was a complete dissapointment in Detroit? Who continues to whiff on assignments in the preseason.

I hope you are joking with McKinney, he might be the worst starting offensive lineman in ALL of the NFL. He might be the worst backup lineman in all of the NFL, the guy flat out sucks. I'll withhold judgement with Carey and James.

And apparently Houck didn't find McIntosh to be very vital, seeing as how he cut him loose in his time in San Diego.

We have one of the worst lines in ALL of football, it's sad but true. (good song)

 

[FaninPatsyLand]

Oh yeah By the way....

Ricky led the league in Rushing behind a Miami Offensive Line...

'Nuff Said....

That was also a COMPLETELY different offensive line, which included Jamie Nails and Tim Ruddy.

I never said a great runningback can't improve an offensive line, but this current edition we have in Miami is really putrid.

 

[philyphin]

Our entire offense is a waste, not just ronnie brown, until our offensive line decides to work together it doesn't matter who we have on offense, the only reason why ronnie is a wasted pick is that he will be ruined by a shotty offensive line & be beaten to a pulp, before he gets a chance to do anything.
Football games are won and lost by the guys up front, if there are no holes to run through, you can't run period. If you don't have time to throw, you can't throw period. It works the same way on Defense if you can't get pressure or fill the holes you lose.... We need an offensive line, and we will never be good until our line is effective.

 

[volk]

That was also a COMPLETELY different offensive line, which included Jamie Nails and Tim Ruddy.

I never said a great runningback can't improve an offensive line, but this current edition we have in Miami is really putrid.

Indeed. Actually, the fact that Ricky had success behind Ruddy and Nails just drives home how bad this current OL is. We all thought the Ruddy/Nails OL was bad, but when we fielded our current one no RB had success and Ricky wasn't even willing to run behind it, proving that the current OL is the worst in Dolphin history and certainly the worst in the NFL...there is no comparison to the other OL's mentioned as being poor.

 

[Fran2fin]

Drafting Ronnie Brown wasn't a waste as long as he becomes capable of playing at the level of hype surrounding him. The better statement would be that drafting Ronnie Brown might not have been the best move for the short term turnaround for this team.

As I frequently voiced prior to the draft, I felt that taking a RB at #2 is a bad move. The role of the RB is changing in the NFL and isn't as critical to have top skill at as it used to be. At the same time, the role of the QB is increasing and requires maximum skill. Because of this, I was desirous of taking a top QB prospect or trading down for more picks.

Unfortunately, barring some major change of events our QB situation is dismal, and our OL isn't much better. We now have major money tied up in the RB position that will be unable to produce behind the current OL. This means we will have to upgrade at QB and OL this offseason, leading to yet another potential high round pick at offense with high pick money and a potential multi-year learning process for a new QB. By the time the offense has settled around Brown, he will likely have 3 seasons of excessive wear and tear behind this OL...potentially wasting the best part of his career.

Brown has lots of talent and may have been the BPA, but the timing of the pick in the Dolphin's development timeline is what makes it so dubious. Ronnie has tremendous potential, I just worry about it being wasted in the current offense.

"QB situation is dismal, and our OL isn't much better"

Saban didn't show much interest in the O line (during the draft) did he?

 

[FaninPatsyLand]

Indeed. Actually, the fact that Ricky had success behind Ruddy and Nails just drives home how bad this current OL is. We all thought the Ruddy/Nails OL was bad, but when we fielded our current one no RB had success and Ricky wasn't even willing to run behind it, proving that the current OL is the worst in Dolphin history and certainly the worst in the NFL...there is no comparison to the other OL's mentioned as being poor.

Great point. Good post man.

 

[tmny99]

I am glad you believe Brown will be very successful, and I truly hope you are correct...It's just that I have never seen a running back of any calibre light it up behind an OL as unskilled as ours

Does Barry Sanders ring a bell? He played behind some of the worst O lines and now he's a hall of famer. Not saying that Ronnie is the next Barry or even an hall of fame back, I just think we can't speculate until he hits the field.

 

[volk]

Our entire offense is a waste, not just ronnie brown, until our offensive line decides to work together it doesn't matter who we have on offense, the only reason why ronnie is a wasted pick is that he will be ruined by a shotty offensive line & be beaten to a pulp, before he gets a chance to do anything.
Football games are won and lost by the guys up front, if there are no holes to run through, you can't run period. If you don't have time to throw, you can't throw period. It works the same way on Defense if you can't get pressure or fill the holes you lose.... We need an offensive line, and we will never be good until our line is effective.

This is exactly my problem with the Ronnie pick. IMO, you fix the OL first, then you look for a RB. Heck, I would settle for a poor OL at this point, because even poor would be an upgrade. Why can't some of you understand that criticising the pick of Ronnie has nothing to do with his talent, but rather with the talent of the team around him. What good is a 19 million dollar running back if he can't get a seam to run through or gets too much abuse and develops chronic injury problems? It's like having the best receiver in the world and Ryan Leaf trying to get the ball to him...it just doesn't work.

 

[FaninPatsyLand]

"QB situation is dismal, and our OL isn't much better"

Saban didn't show much interest in the O line (during the draft) did he?

Outside of Alabi, who would you have liked him to draft? Was Alex Barron worthy of the #2 pick overall? He's been a dissapointment in St. Louis so far.

People on this board were all exicited about Ben Wilkerson. Well he was released by the Bengals weeks ago.

I'll trust in Houck's evaluation of talent.

 

[Troysif]

agreed

 

[volk]

"QB situation is dismal, and our OL isn't much better"

Saban didn't show much interest in the O line (during the draft) did he?

I'm not quite sure what you are driving at here? Are you implying the OL is doing fine because Saban failed to address it in the draft, or are you questioning Saban's drafting skills for failing to address it?

FWIW, Saban is now openly criticising the OL and calling it the weak link.

 

[guido13]

I like Ronnie, and hope he does well. It will be a real potent backfield with R&R for years to come.

But I do think the best possible move would have been to unload the pick for more picks. Less up front money on one pplayer. More key position players. And judging by Saban's drafting ability, we would have done very well.

All that being said, I am not upset with drafting Ronnie.

 

[volk]

Does Barry Sanders ring a bell? He played behind some of the worst O lines and now he's a hall of famer. Not saying that Ronnie is the next Barry or even an hall of fame back, I just think we can't speculate until he hits the field.

If Ronnie has to be Barry Sanders to succeed, then you are asking way too much. Sanders is one of the all time greatest backs in NFL history and while Ronnie may be awesome, if you need that calibre of running back to succeed, you are going to be waiting a long time. Ronnie may have all the tools to surprise, yes, but certainly the odds are heavy against him being another Barry Sanders, or even to be highly successful this season:

1. He missed almost the entire training camp.

2. His offensive line is one of the worst I have ever seen.

3. He has never carried the entire load during a college season, let alone an NFL season, raising legitimate questions about his durability.

4. No one respects our passing game.

 

[Dol-Fan Dupree]

I'm not quite sure what you are driving at here? Are you implying the OL is doing fine because Saban failed to address it in the draft, or are you questioning Saban's drafting skills for failing to address it?

FWIW, Saban is now openly criticising the OL and calling it the weak link.

Miami has been drafting offensive linemen for 3 years now. You can't fix the offensive line in one year through the draft.