Eagles may add running back

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Yes we need draft picks.

That being said you do not undervalue your own players in order to get them. You also don't get rid of guys just for the sake of stockpiling picks.

Remember, we still have to play a season. If we went by all the recomendations I've seen over the last week on this board our 53 man roster would consist of 52 Q.B.'s and Wes Welker...BUT we'd have a ton of draft picks....

Let's get our feet back on the ground here.

I'm all for trading Gordon. If we get a 4th for the guy I'd take it in a second.

I'm all for trading Thompson. If we got a bag of footballs for the guy I'd take it in a second.

I'm NOT for trading Sammy Morris. The guy is our #3 runner, #3 fullback, stellar on special teams and he can make plays when he is needed. The ONLY way I let Morris out of here is if someone offers a 3rd rounder for him.

I'm also NOT for trading Ricky. We have a great 1-2 punch at ruinning back. Considering how much we are gonna have to run the ball this year it would be idiotic to ship him out. We'd NEVER get value in return.

Again...I ask the "trade Ricky now" crowd...tell me what is wrong with actually having some depth for once? You all saw what can happen last year when the injury bug hits the running back spot. We had Leonard freaking Henry as our starter!

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[DrewOldSchool]

I say Derrius Thompson and Gordon for a 2nd round pick or Ricky for a 2nd.

I'll take it. Get the Eagles GM on the phone immediately!

 

[ItalianDolFan]

c'mon guys.....dont u all remember who it was that won our game against the New England Patriots last year? I remember.....we had our orange jerseys, we were losing, AJ Feeley threw a touchdown pass, a pass which i never thought wouldve been caught....but it was caught...even tho there must have been triple coverage there....it was caught by.....Derrius.....Thompson. Then Brendan Ayanbadejo intercepted Tom Brady and finished the game for us. But it was Derrius Thompson who made the game winning catch against the Super Bowl champions!!! So why dont you like him???? He seems real good to me..

 

[Minnphin]

If we went by all the recomendations I've seen over the last week on this board our 53 man roster would consist of 52 Q.B.'s and Wes Welker...BUT we'd have a ton of draft picks....

This could be the funniest line I've ever read on this message board. Good work. :sidelol:

 

[CanadaPhinsFan]

c'mon guys.....dont u all remember who it was that won our game against the New England Patriots last year? I remember.....we had our orange jerseys, we were losing, AJ Feeley threw a touchdown pass, a pass which i never thought wouldve been caught....but it was caught...even tho there must have been triple coverage there....it was caught by.....Derrius.....Thompson. Then Brendan Ayanbadejo intercepted Tom Brady and finished the game for us. But it was Derrius Thompson who made the game winning catch against the Super Bowl champions!!! So why dont you like him???? He seems real good to me..

Triple coverage? Man this legend just gets better each time I hear it lol. It was one play by Thompson. He had a mismatch against a smaller player and took advantage of it. What has he done since then? You can't keep a guy around just because of 1 play a year ago.

 

[zephon]

Yes we need draft picks.

That being said you do not undervalue your own players in order to get them. You also don't get rid of guys just for the sake of stockpiling picks.

Remember, we still have to play a season. If we went by all the recomendations I've seen over the last week on this board our 53 man roster would consist of 52 Q.B.'s and Wes Welker...BUT we'd have a ton of draft picks....

Let's get our feet back on the ground here.

I'm all for trading Gordon. If we get a 4th for the guy I'd take it in a second.

I'm all for trading Thompson. If we got a bag of footballs for the guy I'd take it in a second.

I'm NOT for trading Sammy Morris. The guy is our #3 runner, #3 fullback, stellar on special teams and he can make plays when he is needed. The ONLY way I let Morris out of here is if someone offers a 3rd rounder for him.

I'm also NOT for trading Ricky. We have a great 1-2 punch at ruinning back. Considering how much we are gonna have to run the ball this year it would be idiotic to ship him out. We'd NEVER get value in return.

Again...I ask the "trade Ricky now" crowd...tell me what is wrong with actually having some depth for once? You all saw what can happen last year when the injury bug hits the running back spot. We had Leonard freaking Henry as our starter!

I'm with you on all counts except the NOT trading of Morris. However, I am also not on the MUST trade Morris wagon either. I'd much rather keep Morris than trade him BUT If they offered a 4th for Morris, I'd jump on that just as quickly as a 4th for Gordon (which they'd likely only offer a 5th for him IMO).

IMO, Gordon, Morris, and Minor are all gone AFTER this season.....if they aren't relocated before then. With that in mind, my preference is to group them with another player or 2 like Darrius Thompson for a 3rd round pick (I'd ask for a 2nd but settle on a 3rd for a Gordon\Morris and Thompson package). But, if that's not possible (I'd shop that combo to the entire league btw) then I'm all for stockpiling 5th round picks for the likes of Gordon and Morris individually.

As another poster put it, I'd try many many combinations with these players: Gordon, Morris, Thompson, Whitley (a 7th for him would be the mark of a great GM :) ) , McKinney.

I'd also add these players to that list: Sage, Jamar Martin (I love the guy and hope he makes it but I don't think we'll keep more than 1 FB), Donald "Duck!" Lee, Dario Ramero, and maybe even Eddie Moore (who at 24 still has a ton of potential but is always hurt and might not be big enough overall for Saban's Def).

That's 10 players total. Of course we won't trade them all but they are all guys who I think could each pull a pick in the 5-7th round area with mabye a 4th for a couple of them. Saban said he wants to build thru the draft and wants more depth....well, you get your depth in rounds 4-7. And while some of these guys go provide depth, after listening to Saban and looking at the type of players he's wanting I think that this list of guys can go (although I really like Martin)...they are all replaceable. In a perfect world, he could trade them all for picks covering the next 2 years...10 additional picks over 2 years would be sweet. Even if they are in the back half of the draft they can be used as potiential chips to move up if Saban falls in love with someone higher in the draft.

Anyway, NONE of that will likely happen. We will very likely trade at least 1 RB for something even if it's lower than we think the guy is worth and I'm guessing that will be Morris right now as his value is a bit higher than Gordon's...not only for us but for other teams as well. We'll see.

 

[Philter25]

Cmon people... we need draft picks!!!....

The first smart response to this thread and it came on the second page. Congratulations.

We dont need TO, he cant fit under our cap, we cant afford Simon, and we cant afford Tra Thomas. We are very very tight on the salary cap right now if my math is correct..... taking on a star player with a sizeable contract would require some salary cap manipulations.

We are in rebuilding mode, we need draft picks. We are going to maybe need a CB, SS, FS, RG/C, QB, DT, and LB next year. We need the picks.

 

[Philter25]

Yes we need draft picks.

That being said you do not undervalue your own players in order to get them. You also don't get rid of guys just for the sake of stockpiling picks.

Remember, we still have to play a season. If we went by all the recomendations I've seen over the last week on this board our 53 man roster would consist of 52 Q.B.'s and Wes Welker...BUT we'd have a ton of draft picks....

Let's get our feet back on the ground here.

I'm all for trading Gordon. If we get a 4th for the guy I'd take it in a second.

I'm all for trading Thompson. If we got a bag of footballs for the guy I'd take it in a second.

I'm NOT for trading Sammy Morris. The guy is our #3 runner, #3 fullback, stellar on special teams and he can make plays when he is needed. The ONLY way I let Morris out of here is if someone offers a 3rd rounder for him.

I'm also NOT for trading Ricky. We have a great 1-2 punch at ruinning back. Considering how much we are gonna have to run the ball this year it would be idiotic to ship him out. We'd NEVER get value in return.

Again...I ask the "trade Ricky now" crowd...tell me what is wrong with actually having some depth for once? You all saw what can happen last year when the injury bug hits the running back spot. We had Leonard freaking Henry as our starter!

And the 2nd smart post in this thread. I dont trade Sammy Morris either. I would take anything for Gordon. Figure Gordon will be on our roster for the first 4 games until Ricky comes back then Gordon gets cut to make room for Ricky. (thats if no one gets hurt thats on the 53 man roster)

Anything is better than nothing. I would take a 5th rounder for Gordon and anything for Thompson.

 

[Nicky Napoleon]

If the Dolphins and the Eagles are talking trade you have to think that there will be some OLman involved. I wonder what it would take to pry Shawn Andrews away?

 

[ItalianDolFan]

We are going to maybe need a CB, SS, FS, RG/C, QB, DT, and LB next year. We need the picks.

Meh, i differ. I dont think we need a CB (Will Poole, Sam Madison), SS (Tebucky Jones, Bell) FS (Schulters, Tillman, Bua) or LB (Seau, Thomas, Spragan, Crowder)...well i guess we could use a replacement for Seau when he retires. I think a DT would be good, but Manny Wright and Larry Chester should be healthy and good in a year or two. We certainly need an RG and Center. QB, well if get Couch/McPherson....then no id say forget QBs. Next year, id probably get 2 high offensive line prospects, a high outside linebacker prospect, and if need be...POSSIBLY a decent CB.

 

[Megatron]

And the 2nd smart post in this thread. I dont trade Sammy Morris either. I would take anything for Gordon. Figure Gordon will be on our roster for the first 4 games until Ricky comes back then Gordon gets cut to make room for Ricky. (thats if no one gets hurt thats on the 53 man roster)

Anything is better than nothing. I would take a 5th rounder for Gordon and anything for Thompson.

No one will give up anything for Thompson, he's on the cut block already. Gordon might get us a conditional sixth.

 

[Philter25]

Meh, i differ. I dont think we need a CB (Will Poole, Sam Madison), SS (Tebucky Jones, Bell) FS (Schulters, Tillman, Bua) or LB (Seau, Thomas, Spragan, Crowder)...well i guess we could use a replacement for Seau when he retires. I think a DT would be good, but Manny Wright and Larry Chester should be healthy and good in a year or two. We certainly need an RG and Center. QB, well if get Couch/McPherson....then no id say forget QBs. Next year, id probably get 2 high offensive line prospects, a high outside linebacker prospect, and if need be...POSSIBLY a decent CB.

Ummm we will need a CB. Howard is schedule to make 4 million next year, I dont think so. Edwards also should be gone. You are right, we will have Poole, Madison and Daniels. Who plays dime? Whos your #5 guy? We draft a CB.

For the SS and FS postions. Jones and Schulters are both over 30. Jones is on a 2 year deal and Schulters is on a 1 year deal. He is a free agent. You cant guarantee he will resign and we need to draft their replacements sooner rather than later. We draft a S or sign a UFA.

LB, you need a replacement for Seau. Im cool with Crowder replacing Thomas in a few years but you still need another LB in the mix.

DT glad you agree..... Unless Wright and Vickerson both move into the starting spots, we need a DT. Traylor is 34, Chester should be done, he is 30 with back problems and I will be shocked if he plays this entire year and is effective, Zgonina is 30ish, same with Holliday and he might not be back next year.

RG/C, we have Hadnot, we need the position he doesnt play.

As for the O-line, we can use an OT..... maybe. Im still not counting out Carey/McDougle.

We still have a LOT of holes. Saban did good patchwork to make our defense competitive but we still have great depth issues and holes.

 

[Dolphin North]

I say Derrius Thompson for a cheerleader, as long as she is good looking.

C'mon be serious,

Everyone knows you couldn't get a good looking cheerleader for Thompson. Maybe a good looking cheerleader's grandmother.

 

[Boik14]

We had three guys get injured and a retirement before we got to Henry. When that happens, well, you're just up a certain creek we all know of without a paddle. Henry actually did have our first breakaway run, although it was after a few pedestrain 2.0 ypc games........not that it was any worse than any of our runners at that time, even Gordon.

His point was that injuries frequently happen at RB cause of the load they are asked to shoulder and the pounding they take as a result. RB is a spot you must have quality depth.

 

[jlfin]

LOL YEAH!

DONOVAN MCNABB!

Don't discount Sammy Morris. He is a hard working, good all around back. He's an excellent backup. He had a few pretty good games last season.
The Eagles are likely looking for depth and versatility at that position, not a starter.