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Ricky and Ronnie
I had been under the impression that Ricky Williams wouldn't be a Dolphin for very long, that he was certain to be traded after this year. Come to find out that isn't the case. Not at all. The Dolphins would like the tandem of Williams and Ronnie Brown to work for several years.

I'm told the Dolphins have not even had internal discussions about the possibility of eventually moving Williams. That's not to say it won't happen for the right price. But Miami isn't looking to do it. And why should the Dolphins? First of all, they can afford both. Under the terms of his contract, because of his drug suspension, Williams is a minimum-salaried player for two more seasons. Second, and more important, the running back position is a two-man job.

Williams is getting on a bit of a roll. He's run for 82 and 83 yards the past two weeks. In four of the Dolphins' last five games, he's averaged 4.8, 5.2, 6.4, and 5.1 a carry.

For the first time in his career, Williams isn't the focal point, but I think he's comfortable in that role. How long he'll accept being paid like a backup, I have no clue. I know the Dolphins haven't aggressively pursued the $8.6 million Williams owes them and as long as things are going well, there's a chance they won't. It's the ideal setup for the Dolphins, for sure. As Miami learned last year, you don't want to find yourself depending on Williams to be "the man." I also think the competition has been good for both backs. And it has helped Brown to have a veteran around to lean on. Having both in the backfield at the same time causes headaches for defenses, though. Defenses align themselves based on the offense's strength. But with no true fullback and two equal threats to run, the Saints' defense, for one, had trouble declaring the Dolphins' strong side and aligning itself accordingly in a loss last month. Williams and Brown have been in the backfield together about a quarter of the time on nonpassing downs. It's a sight the rest of the league might as well get used to.
 
I have been saying this to anyone who would listen for quite some time. Unless someone is willing to give us great value in picks there is just no reason to get rid of him. Especialy since he seems to buy into what Saban is doing.
 
dolphan117 said:
I have been saying this to anyone who would listen for quite some time. Unless someone is willing to give us great value in picks there is just no reason to get rid of him. Especialy since he seems to buy into what Saban is doing.
I totally agree, but what is "great value"? A second? A first? more? less?
 
Oboy said:
I totally agree, but what is "great value"? A second? A first? more? less?

Considering his past...great value would be a 3rd round pick.
 
wouldn't it be fair to judge it by what it would take to replace him. To say we have to get AT LEAST that much, otherwise keep him.
 
Superself said:
Considering his past...great value would be a 3rd round pick.

Thats exactly what I mean. His past dosnt have much(if any) effect on what he is doing for us but it lowers his value to another team. For us a great value would be a first round pick and certainly not less than a second. If no team is willing to give us that than what is the point in trading him?
 
Caldolfan said:
2nd or better for ricky.


I doubt ANY team would be willing to give up more than a third for him.

Corey Dillion was traded for a second round pick.
 
Provided Ricky and Ronnie are happy in their roles, Ricky doesn't complain about his salary, and Linehan can keep it in his brain to run at least as often as pass, I think this is a great situation for the Dolphins.
 
I'd just like to know what happend to all the Ricky haters??? At the beginning of the season there were a lot of people bashing Ricky and Saban for bringing him back. I for one was very pissed when Ricky quit, but I didn't hold onto the anger or destroy the things I worked hard to aquire of Ricky and now Ricky is having a very quite but solid season getting 1/3 the carries he did when he was the man here. All I can say is I'm glad he's here and have been since I heard Saban was bringing him back. Saban may not ever win a SB here, but he's doing a great job with this team and future looks bright, as a fan thats all you can ask.
 
feelthepain said:
I'd just like to know what happend to all the Ricky haters??? At the beginning of the season there were a lot of people bashing Ricky and Saban for bringing him back. I for one was very pissed when Ricky quit, but I didn't hold onto the anger or destroy the things I worked hard to aquire of Ricky and now Ricky is having a very quite but solid season getting 1/3 the carries he did when he was the man here. All I can say is I'm glad he's here and have been since I heard Saban was bringing him back. Saban may not ever win a SB here, but he's doing a great job with this team and future looks bright, as a fan thats all you can ask.


People had a right to hate on Ricky for what he did to the team. You admit yourself you were pissed when he left....so you are an example of what happened to the haters--you were one yourself.
 
Awesome read. Ricky has done all you can ask of him since coming back. Apologizing to the team, working hard, not drawing attention, not smoking and scoring touchdowns. At the league minumum! I think he is happy. He is becoming a student of the game which is what he wants to be a student. The Phins arent pursuing the money and he's making some change. No harm no foul. I love it. Why in the world anyone would want to trade him is beyond me.
 
I really think that Ricky enjoys the situation he is in right now. It really is great for both of them.

Think about it: We can have the same number of running plays we did when we led the league in rushing, but we won't be driving our RB's into the dirt and shortening their careers from the number of carries. Both guys should stay fresh longer, and you don't have to worry so much about one of them getting hurt (it would still suck, but not like it did last year).

The only thing is that Ricky isn't really making big money, compared to other guys that can do what he can do. But, he also hasn't had to cough up 8+ million either, so we'll have to see how that works out.

Personally, I think Ricky is doing great. Like the poster above said, he's doing everything he is asked to do, and then some.
 
i see him thrown in on a draft day trade, or a draft pick involving trade... just what i think will happen
 
arsenal said:
i see him thrown in on a draft day trade, or a draft pick involving trade... just what i think will happen

For the right price I would have no problem with it. But thats a 1st rounder, no less. The financial situation and production is an ideal situation. But remember, this isn't the Spielman/Wanny era, no giving away the franchise (not saying he is, just figuratively speaking) for a higher pick.
 
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