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byroan said:
I wonder what Jacksonville would give up for Gordon.

It all depends on Taylor. If he gets nicked up or has any questions regarding his durability for the full 16 game season; then I would expect them to make inquiries about Gordon.
 
hunter5nc1 said:

What's 36? His age? I think Gus will be 34 this sunday. He still isn't a long term solution at QB. I don't have anything against Gus starting this season, I do think he will be our starter. But I would like to see Feeley earn the starting position.
 
NLude33 said:
Says Gordon has looked good. Also.....


NLude33 said:
There's all kinds of speculation the Dolphins will trade Williams once he gets into shape and they showcase him in the preseason games. The bet here is the Dolphins will get more inquiries (possibly from Jacksonville) about Gordon.


for the last time MIAMI IS NOT going to trade ricky williams saban would rather have ricky ripping up the backfeild than to trade him for what a 6th or 7th rounder:shakeno: that would be stupid and the rest of the fellow dol_fins would agree with me the edge ,alexander,and henry couldnt even get a 3rd so ricky is worth more 2 us than a 6th or 7th :shakeno: ricky will not be traded not this year and not next because he only wants 2 play 2 years
 
jason_taylor said:
NLude33 said:
There's all kinds of speculation the Dolphins will trade Williams once he gets into shape and they showcase him in the preseason games. The bet here is the Dolphins will get more inquiries (possibly from Jacksonville) about Gordon.


for the last time MIAMI IS NOT going to trade ricky williams saban would rather have ricky ripping up the backfeild than to trade him for what a 6th or 7th rounder:shakeno: that would be stupid and the rest of the fellow dol_fins would agree with me the edge ,alexander,and henry couldnt even get a 3rd so ricky is worth more 2 us than a 6th or 7th :shakeno: ricky will not be traded not this year and not next because he only wants 2 play 2 years

Yeah.....:( .....thats what it said. Thanks though.
 
NLude33 said:
Probably a cond. 5th. They only wanted to give a 4th for Travis Henry, and he is a proven 1,000 yard back. I would say a 5th that might turn into a 4th or 3rd with certain markers.

The Jags went on record to say thay they were willing to give a 2nd, straight up.
 
jason_taylor said:
NLude33 said:
There's all kinds of speculation the Dolphins will trade Williams once he gets into shape and they showcase him in the preseason games. The bet here is the Dolphins will get more inquiries (possibly from Jacksonville) about Gordon.


for the last time MIAMI IS NOT going to trade ricky williams saban would rather have ricky ripping up the backfeild than to trade him for what a 6th or 7th rounder:shakeno: that would be stupid and the rest of the fellow dol_fins would agree with me the edge ,alexander,and henry couldnt even get a 3rd so ricky is worth more 2 us than a 6th or 7th :shakeno: ricky will not be traded not this year and not next because he only wants 2 play 2 years

That's what the article stated Einstein..... :lol:

Bet your bottom dollar the Ricky will be traded next year however.
 
gottahavefootba said:
I never heard this :confused:
But if it is true, why is he still on our team?

the jags said they were willing to give a 2nd for henry. i'm assuming that might translate into a 3rd or conditional 4th for gordon...
 
Saban swears he hasn't made up his mind on the quarterbacks, that both will get a shot to win the job in preseason, that he doesn't want to cheat his team out of having the best guy on the field. But the best guy, it says here (and, we're betting, they're probably saying it in the coaches' evaluation sessions), is Frerotte. Word is coaches regularly groan when they watch the daily video of some of Feeley's efforts.

Sounds bad for Feeley.
 
jason_taylor said:
NLude33 said:
There's all kinds of speculation the Dolphins will trade Williams once he gets into shape and they showcase him in the preseason games. The bet here is the Dolphins will get more inquiries (possibly from Jacksonville) about Gordon.


for the last time MIAMI IS NOT going to trade ricky williams saban would rather have ricky ripping up the backfeild than to trade him for what a 6th or 7th rounder:shakeno: that would be stupid and the rest of the fellow dol_fins would agree with me the edge ,alexander,and henry couldnt even get a 3rd so ricky is worth more 2 us than a 6th or 7th :shakeno: ricky will not be traded not this year and not next because he only wants 2 play 2 years

Dude, its gonna take Ricky two years to prove hes worth a good contract, don't bet on him only playing two years.

He needs the money to badly.
 
The alleged quarterback "competition" between journeyman Gus Frerotte and A.J. Feeley is a sham. (Actually, it's a shame, too, that this is the best the Dolphins can do at the position, but so be it.) It makes for good copy, and manufactures an interest level, but it will be a monumental upset if Frerotte isn't the opening day starter.

I'm very happy to see them say this, as I've been saying it for quite some time now. The coaches brought Frerotte in to put Feeley back on the bench, where he can sit back and learn the system in a pressure-free environment. He was successful in Philly under those conditions. In Miami he had a bunch of pressure and had to learn a new offense and didn't have a very good cast around him and he FAILED MISERABLY. There's a lot of apologetic feeling around dolfanmania about his failing miserably, which is understandable because he had a bunch of pressure, was learning a new offense, and didn't have a very good cast around him.

But, not enough has changed around here to say, ok, maybe he'll succeed in THESE conditions. He still has a lot of pressure, still has a new offense (his 3rd in 3 years), and the OL still isn't great, and the RB's look like they could be great but are still basically a question mark until we see what Ronnie can really do.

Frerotte's 34, he can't play forever. Feeley can sit the bench a year or two no sweat, learn Linehan's system and learn to appreciate it...then come out guns ablazing and run the system until we find ourselves that "special" guy.
 
Trekbiz said:
jason_taylor said:
That's what the article stated Einstein..... :lol:

Bet your bottom dollar the Ricky will be traded next year however.


how much are you willing to bet nobody wants a one year deal with ricky and still like i said saban will not trade him 4 a 6th or 7th round pick now gordon on the other hand saban might trade him if they give us a 3rd but why would they give us a 3rd 4 gordon when they could have had edge or alexander for a 2nd or even henery for a 3rd :shakeno: but i am willing to bet you that ricky will remain a fin the rest of his career (2years) cause that is what he said he wanted to play soo you can send via money order or pay pal:evil:
 
ckparrothead said:
I'm very happy to see them say this, as I've been saying it for quite some time now. The coaches brought Frerotte in to put Feeley back on the bench, where he can sit back and learn the system in a pressure-free environment. He was successful in Philly under those conditions. In Miami he had a bunch of pressure and had to learn a new offense and didn't have a very good cast around him and he FAILED MISERABLY. There's a lot of apologetic feeling around dolfanmania about his failing miserably, which is understandable because he had a bunch of pressure, was learning a new offense, and didn't have a very good cast around him.

But, not enough has changed around here to say, ok, maybe he'll succeed in THESE conditions. He still has a lot of pressure, still has a new offense (his 3rd in 3 years), and the OL still isn't great, and the RB's look like they could be great but are still basically a question mark until we see what Ronnie can really do.

Frerotte's 34, he can't play forever. Feeley can sit the bench a year or two no sweat, learn Linehan's system and learn to appreciate it...then come out guns ablazing and run the system until we find ourselves that "special" guy.

Not enough has changed? At least two new starters on the O-line, David Boston at receiver, Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown at running back, Hudson Houck, Scott Linehan and Nick Saban........Please.
 
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