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The premise of the article was find a superlative for every teams offseason...also posted the Bills and Pats for refernce. We might have to settle for a 5th or worse at this point. I dont want this to drag into TC, Ramsey will be a distraction, hes very tempermental.


The superlative: Least likely to find a solution for their most pressing problem

The Dolphins are facing an impasse with veteran cornerback Jalen Ramsey, and they have nobody to blame but themselves. When they traded a third-round pick and tight end Hunter Long to the Rams for Ramsey in the spring of 2023, they signed Ramsey to a new deal with two years of guarantees. That money would have run out after the 2024 season, but Miami extended him with a three-year, $72 million contract just before Week 1 last year, essentially adding an additional $25 million in guarantees to his contract for the 2025 campaign.

Well, the Dolphins and Ramsey seem to want another team to be on the hook for those guarantees. In mid-April, long after teams had spent most of their offseason budget for new player additions, the two sides mutually decided they should split up. The deadline for that breakup won't come until Week 1, when Ramsey's $19 million option bonus comes due. Miami already paid him a $4 million bonus in March, so a new team would be on the hook for $21 million in 2025.

General manager Chris Grier hasn't been able to find a taker yet, and that's not surprising. The league has been extremely hesitant to pay 30-year-old defensive backs recently, which is why there wasn't more of a market for Ramsey's services when the Rams dealt him two years ago. He also suffered meniscus injuries in both 2016 and 2023, with each being repaired via trims.

Ramsey helped the Dolphins' defense move toward the top of the league when he returned from that knee issue in 2023, but he wasn't quite as effective in 2024. Receivers had more success isolated one-on-one against him, most notably when Jets wideout Garrett Wilson repeatedly left Ramsey in his wake in a December game. New defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver used Ramsey more often as a blitzer, and while he was effective getting pressure on quarterbacks, Miami acquired him to be a shutdown cornerback.

Even if the Dolphins were willing to ship off Ramsey for only a seventh-round pick to save salary, there aren't going to be many teams that have $21 million in their budget to work with at this point of the offseason. There's also another cornerback at the same price point potentially lingering on the market in Jaire Alexander, whose trade rumors haven't yielded anything resembling a deal.

Ramsey is still a good player, but unless he's willing to give up a significant amount of guaranteed money or the Dolphins are willing to eat some of what he's due, it's hard to find a way this ends amicably for all involved. And given that this is the same cornerback who once showed up to training camp in an armored truck as he sought a new deal from the Jaguars, it would be surprising if he didn't make his frustrations public in the coming months.


Buffalo Bills

The superlative:
Most likely to stay the course

Three years ago, general manager Brandon Beane responded to a crushing playoff loss to the Chiefs by doing something out of character: going all-in. After years of using free agency to target solid veterans around his young core, he handed Von Miller a six-year, $120 million deal with three seasons almost entirely guaranteed. The hope was that signing the former All-Pro edge rusher would be enough to get the Bills over the hump, but Miller was limited by injuries and an off-field suspension and had only 14 sacks over three seasons. The move did not work out.

With the Bills cutting Miller this offseason after another heartbreaking defeat to Kansas City, all eyes were on what Beane would do next. Would he make another all-in move to land the difference-maker who could swing a close game against the Chiefs?

No. While the Bills spent plenty of money this offseason, it was used to lock up the best players from their 2021 and 2022 draft classes. Cornerback Christian Benford, linebacker Terrel Bernard, edge rusher Greg Rousseau and wide receiver Khalil Shakir all signed extensions, with their four contracts adding up to more than $61 million per year on average. Linebacker Matt Milano took a pay cut to return for another season after two injury-hit campaigns. To top it off, Josh Allen signed a new deal for six years and $330 million, with Beane convincing his star quarterback to leave millions of dollars per year on the table as a trade for the security of $250 million in practical guarantees.

Instead, Buffalo has stuck with its strategy of targeting midroster players in free agency. It signed edge rusher Michael Hoecht from the Rams and imported AFC North veteran defensive tackle Larry Ogunjobi for about $7 million each. Wide receiver Joshua Palmer joined from the Chargers on a three-year, $29 million pact. The Bills' biggest swing was on another former Charger in oft-injured edge rusher Joey Bosa; unlike with the Miller signing, though, they are on the hook for only one year and $12.6 million.


Should the Bills have taken a bigger swing? Beane probably played this correctly. It's tempting to look at the Eagles and their impressive 2024 free agent class as proof that he should have been more aggressive, but keep in mind that Howie Roseman's most successful signings last year were in the middle of the market. Running back Saquon Barkley's deal ranked 20th in average value, while linebacker Zack Baun's one-year deal was for just $3.5 million. The biggest move Roseman made was a three-year, $51.1 million contract for edge rusher Bryce Huff, a rare Philadelphia move that didn't work out.

After their Miller miss, the Bills look as though they're going to stay in their roster construction lane moving forward.

New England Patriots

The superlative: Most likely to need name tags at training camp

Last offseason, the Patriots seemed to be hesitant about using free agency to address the holes on their roster. The biggest average annual salary they handed to players who hadn't been part of the organization in the past were the one-year, $4 million deals they gave wideout K.J. Osborn and left tackle Chukwuma Okorafor, the latter of whom left the team after he was benched in the opener. While quarterback Drake Maye and cornerback Christian Gonzalez were impressive amid difficult circumstances, New England simply didn't have enough talent in 2024.

Well, no one can accuse the Pats of resting on their laurels this offseason. They could have up to 11 new starters in Week 1, most of whom were veteran free agent additions. General manager Eliot Wolf brought in six players who will each make at least $8 million per year in average salary, including two of the team's four largest average salaries: defensive tackle Milton Williams ($26 million) and wide receiver Stefon Diggs ($21.17 million). Spending on free agents isn't proof of a successful strategy, but New England needed the talent influx.

While there has understandably been a focus on the additions of Diggs and rookies Will Campbell (OT), TreVeyon Henderson (RB) and Kyle Williams (WR) to help out Maye, I'm more intrigued by what the Patriots did on defense. While the offense was borderline unwatchable at times last season, the defensive collapse might have cost coach Jerod Mayo his job. A defense that ranked first in the league in expected points added (EPA) per play during the second half of 2023 (without Gonzalez or edge Matthew Judon in the lineup) fell to 30th. The Patriots couldn't get pressure on quarterbacks and made too many coverage mistakes.

Unlike on offense, the Pats focused their defensive efforts on adding players who could make an immediate difference. In addition to paying a premium to sign Williams, Wolf signed veterans such as cornerback Carlton Davis III, edge rusher Harold Landry III and linebacker Robert Spillane, who will start immediately in the hopes of quickly turning around the defense.


Here's where new coach Mike Vrabel must make a difference. His Tennessee teams had a habit of getting more out of veterans than their prior employers did. While quarterback Ryan Tannehill was the most notable example, that list included defensive linemen Denico Autry and Mario Edwards Jr., and even cornerback Logan Ryan, one of the rare defenders who left Bill Belichick and the Patriots and improved. If Vrabel can get his veterans to play at a high level and the defense rights itself quickly, the Patriots will have a foundation to build off this season.

 
I don't think he's going anywhere. The Dolphins aren't going to get anything of value for him and cutting him when they lack depth (and don't get cap savings for it) in a year the staff seems like it may be on the hotseat doesn't make sense.
 
I don't think he's going anywhere. The Dolphins aren't going to get anything of value for him and cutting him when they lack depth (and don't get cap savings for it) in a year the staff seems like it may be on the hotseat doesn't make sense.
I dont think keeping him on the roster is a good idea, like the article referenced this is the guy that showed up to the Jags TC in an armored truck when he wasnt happy, not the guy I want hanging around our team if hes unhappy.
 
I dont think keeping him on the roster is a good idea, like the article referenced this is the guy that showed up to the Jags TC in an armored truck when he wasnt happy, not the guy I want hanging around our team if hes unhappy.
He'll probably end up with a soft tissue injury and on IR if they can't trade him. They shouldn't cut him, pay him all that money and let him go for free just because he's not happy again.
 
He'll probably end up with a soft tissue injury and on IR if they can't trade him. They shouldn't cut him, pay him all that money and let him go for free just because he's not happy again.
I know but hes gonna be a malcontent, and we have such a young DB room that I really dont want to his toxic presence around. If he was focused and happy sure, hes a great vet mentor, but not in his current state.

Think its better for all parties to move on at this point.
 
I think he will be traded at some point. GM's do not publicly state that they have agreed to move on when they do not know there is a great possibility of doing so. There is no rush, as he can be traded anytime. I think and hope Grier is taking his time to get the best deal possible or waiting for after June 1. He may even wait through training camp and see if an injury elsewhere gets the deal done. Ramsey is a good player and someone else will go for him. Another desperate GM for sure...there are many of them out there.
 
"No. While the Bills spent plenty of money this offseason, it was used to lock up the best players from their 2021 and 2022 draft classes. Cornerback Christian Benford, linebacker Terrel Bernard, edge rusher Greg Rousseau and wide receiver Khalil Shakir all signed extensions, with their four contracts adding up to more than $61 million per year on average."

:ponder:
 
I don't give a **** about our diva Ramsey, right now, unless of course, he decides he IS going to play for the Dolphins this year.
 
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"No. While the Bills spent plenty of money this offseason, it was used to lock up the best players from their 2021 and 2022 draft classes. Cornerback Christian Benford, linebacker Terrel Bernard, edge rusher Greg Rousseau and wide receiver Khalil Shakir all signed extensions, with their four contracts adding up to more than $61 million per year on average."

:ponder:
Yea reading that hurt...especially considering we've only re-signed one of our players from those classes to a long term contract in Waddle. 2022 and 2023 really hurt as far as not getting any snaps or production besides Achane.
 
Polamalu retired at 33 but said later, post retirement, that he realized around age 30 that he was always a step behind where he wanted to be.

Ramsey is 30.

Ramsey, who respectfully is not as good as Polamalu, records be compared, is at the point now in his career where Ramsey, like Polamalu was at 30, is now always a step behind where he wants and needs to be on the field.

Let Ramsey walk. Take a chance with the younger players.
 
The worst part is Miami could have kept Hunt or Wilkins with the type of contract they gave to Ramsey.

I understand Ramsey is a talented player at a premium position, but I think the Dolphins need to prioritize keeping players who are team guys and leaders. We are seeing the same issues with Hill.

When your highest paid players are me first, you aren't competing for championships.
 
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