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ESPN: "Should the Dolphins trade down?"

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There has been plenty of offseason speculation that the http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/mia/miami-dolphinsMiami Dolphins would be interested in trading up from the No. 8 overall pick, presumably to land Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III.

But something that hasn't been discussed nearly as much in this draft is the idea of Miami trading down. Should the Dolphins consider it?

I think it makes a lot of sense. Miami's needs in the first round (quarterback, right tackle, safety) may not be available or too high for the No. 8 overall pick.

For example, quarterbacks Andrew Luck and Griffin III would both be targets of interest for the Dolphins. But both are expected to go within the top two picks. Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill also could be of interest, considering his ties with Miami offensive coordinator Mike Sherman, but not at No. 8. If Miami trades back, the interest in Tannehill would increase.

Right tackle is huge position of need for Miami with starter and pending free agent Marc Colombo not expected back. But smart teams do not draft right tackles in the top eight. Left tackles are much more valuable.

Also, is there a safety worthy of the eighth pick in this draft? I don’t see it.

If Miami uses the pick, I think the team should look at the best pass-rusher on the board at No. 8. The Dolphins have outside linebacker Cameron Wake (8.5 sacks), but I don’t think you can ever stockpile enough pass-rushers in today’s NFL. The Super Bowl champion http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giantsNew York Giants are a great example.

But taking a pass-rusher wouldn’t fill Miami’s biggest needs, which is why the team should also consider trading out of the No. 8 pick in April.


Clearly as usual ESPN doesnt know what their talking about, pass-rusher is one of Miami's biggest needs, the Dolphins got away with average Safety play last season with injuries and players starting for the first time, IMO and i think most people who watch the Dolphins would know another pass rusher is a "biggest need" if Wake doesnt get pressure, most of the time the QB is sitting back there all day, theirs only so much time whoever the Safety is back there can cover a guy if their is no pressure on the QB, we saw what pressure did to Brady in the 2nd game against the Pats last season in the 1st half, the second half the pressure dissapeared and so did the Dolphins lead
 
I think if Richardson is on the board, we'll trade down with the Bengals and get Reiff, Decastro, or Tannehill.
 
oasis said:
I think if Richardson is on the board, we'll trade down with the Bengals and get Reiff, Decastro, or Tannehill.
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Was thinking similary with the Bengals, but what do we get back from the Bengals other than swapping from 8 to 17? a 2nd?

Also if Tannehill is a real target, I'm not sure he makes it past Seattle at 12, the Seahawks have a RB, solid improving defense, and if Sidney Rice is healthy, a decent set of young WRs, in that division they can be a QB from competiting even with the 49ers, even if they "reached" for Tannehill at 12 it would still make them better, Tannehill's talent and upside is better than a Tavaris Jackson or Charlie Whitehurst
 
I would rather trade down than trade up. We have more than just one need on this team, and trading up would cost us picks that we cannot afford. The only way I would trade up is for RG3, if we don't get Manning or Flynn. If we could pick up an extra late first rounder or second rounder by trading down, I think we should do this....besides a QB, we need a great pass rusher, a TE, another quality WR, and an O-lineman.
 
Pretty much dead on the money. If they can't get RG3, trading back is the best way to go. Draft is really deep with pass rushers, add another 2nd round pick and trade back in the first to get that RT.
 
I guess Dolphins fans should be rooting for Trent Richardson to kill it at his Pro-Day and make teams want to trade up to the Phins spot to grab him
 
No way do we trade down. This what has killed this organization trying to get bargains instead of trying to get the best player available at the highest possible draft position.
 
chrisbaucom said:
Pretty much dead on the money. If they can't get RG3, trading back is the best way to go. Draft is really deep with pass rushers, add another 2nd round pick and trade back in the first to get that RT.
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Actually DE is the weakest position in the draft. This draft is deep with DTs and O-Line.
 
It really depends on what the board looks like at our pick. If Tannehill is there, I have to think we pick him. If not, then you look at DE. If we trade down, will Coples, Ingram, or Upshaw still be there? Or if we trade down, do we pick up a 2nd rounder? If so, do we take Mike Adams to be our RT in the 1st, and grab a DE in the second, such as Chandler Jones? You have to look at the many options that trading down gives us, but you also don't want to miss out on top talent if it's there
 
GADOLPHIN said:
No way do we trade down. This what has killed this organization trying to get bargains instead of trying to get the best player available at the highest possible draft position.
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This makes no sense at all.
The way you WIN the draft is to be able to get the most bang for the buck. That can include trading down or trading up depending on the situation and needs.
It has nothing to do with bargain shopping.

Trade up and sacrifice multiple picks for RG3 or trade down and get DeCastro + Cousins plus whoever we can get next year with our first round pick.

Remember that Ireland traded down several times in an attempt to "regain" the lost 2nd round picks in the Marshall trade.

Losing a draft is doing what Cameron did and taking a guy with your 1st round pick that would have been there for much longer
 
Id like to the Dolphins trade up for

1. RG3
2. Blackmon - if somehow slips out of top 5

Id like to see the Dolphins trade down if
Couples is taken #7...we already sign/trade for a QB

Move down enough to pick up a 2nd round pick..
Draft Mark Barron in 1st round... go RT /OG and TE with your two 2nd round picks..


1. Mark Barron--
 
There's no way we trade up for RG3... The Browns will offer their two first rounders to jump from the 4 spot and we'd still need to out bid Daniel Snyder.... so I'm thinking 2 1st's and 2 2nds if not 3 firsts to put up enough value to make moving to the 8th spot look more tantalizing.

I've been a proponent of going all in on Manning for 2-3 years of an incentive laden contract and possibly trade out of the first round for a first rounder next year and then couping those 2 picks to move up for Barkley... it will be tight to the cap but I think it's possible.
 
oasis said:
I think if Richardson is on the board, we'll trade down with the Bengals and get Reiff, Decastro, or Tannehill.
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I 100% agree
Miami is going to reach on a QB in first round at 8. The only scenario that i see them trading down is if Trent Richardson falls the we trade with cincy. After reading all these posts and watching NFL live I would rather draft a QB than over pay for Flynn. With the rookie wage scale drafting a QB at 8 or 16 and him being a bust wont set us back as badly as it used to due to the rookie wages scale. Over paying for Flynn would actually hurt more, look at the Cardinals situation ITS BAD. I would rather save the money and sign Jason Smith if the rams cut him (praying to hashem)or Nicks or Grubbs and go after a Pass rusher and get great value with one of the FA receivers this off season (this off season is stacked with receivers to compliment Marshall). I would also sign Tracy porter and move Sean Smith to Safety. This off season will show if Ireland is being miss judged. Theres so much young talent out there in FA that we can fill important holes AND DRAFT POSITIONS OF NEED NOT DEPTH
 
Yonk1216 said:
There's no way we trade up for RG3... The Browns will offer their two first rounders to jump from the 4 spot and we'd still need to out bid Daniel Snyder.... so I'm thinking 2 1st's and 2 2nds if not 3 firsts to put up enough value to make moving to the 8th spot look more tantalizing.

I've been a proponent of going all in on Manning for 2-3 years of an incentive laden contract and possibly trade out of the first round for a first rounder next year and then couping those 2 picks to move up for Barkley... it will be tight to the cap but I think it's possible.
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issue there is if Manning is even 90% i think the Dolphins are a 10 win team, and with that could pick anywhere from 18-24ish, Barkely should go #1 barring some drastic changes or at worst top 3, so a lot would depend on whos #1 pick the Phins would aquire for 2013 and how that other team does in the 2012 season, at worst the team would have to have a top 8-10 pick for Miami to move up from their 18-24ish spot
 
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