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Every Tannehill Dropback vs Oakland
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I think many underestimate Tannehill's pocket presence in college and his rookie year because of the horrid pass blocking last season. I wouldn't doubt if his trust in the line was gone early in the season and his willingness to step up diminished.
Here is a quote from Ron Jaworski near the end of Tannehill's rookie season:
here are two articles from his time in college:
http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2012/02/09/managing-the-pocket-part-i-texas-am-qb-ryan-tannehill/
http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2012/02/11/managing-the-pocket-part-ii-texas-am-qb-ryan-tannehill/
I really wonder how close we came to ruining Tannehill last season.
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And if he has done them in the past, then what? You're just wrong?
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Anybody who actually watched the damn pressure compilations could see that the QB wasn't TERRIBLE in the pocket. It was plain as day that the tackles were being pushed into him off the snap and that John Jerry couldn't maintain a block to save his life. You go back and look at all 58 of those sacks and you'll find at least a half-dozen in which the QB avoids edge pressure by stepping up into the pocket, and John Jerry just stands there looking around like an idiot while the inside man collects a no effort sack.
I'll be the first to say that I think we need to draft a QB early if Ryan Tannehill doesn't play better, but I honestly feel like some people who post here don't actually watch other football games.
I'll be the first to say that I think we need to draft a QB early if Ryan Tannehill doesn't play better, but I honestly feel like some people who post here don't actually watch other football games.
Could not agree more.
Many are comparing Tannehill's "pocket presence" to players like Wilson and RGIII. I contend, they don't have better pocket presence, they just play a different style, where they are quick to exit the pocket (especially out the back) at the slightest sign of pressure. They (especially Wilson) make a ton of plays that way, but at the expense of giving up on plays that could be made if they stay in the pocket longer. I don't think you can make one QB play like the other. Both approaches can work as long as the offense is designed to incorporate those approaches. Seattle has done a great job of using Russell's athleticism. But it does not come free.
Or people get into their head something is a fact and won't see it another way. As I've been saying the first month, has Tannehill been inconsistent? Sure, But if a couple close incomplete passes aren't dropped or players can get their feet down on touch catches do we have the discussion about Tanny's accuracy?
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I think we would still have the discussion about his accuracy even if Sims comes up with that pass, Wallace gets his feet down, or people drop those passes. He did look bad weeks 1-2. I think some of that is due to the timing of a new offense (both on QBs and receivers) and some of that is due to Bill Lazor making changes to his footwork, but I absolutely felt like he had accuracy issues weeks one and two. But I don't subscribe to that theory that "you either have accuracy or you don't," because there is so much evidence that QBs can indeed improve their accuracy by making their footwork more consistent and by spending more time in a timing-based offense. So I expect to see continued improvement on that front.
I really do mean it that I don't think people watch football. The only two quarterbacks in the NFL you can tune in to watch on a weekly basis who almost never throw a bad football are Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers (THANKS SABAN!). Peyton is such a genius that he can throw a bad one and usually get away with it. Tom Brady has looked like a bit of a different guy since his swing coach passed away, and now that he's not getting sickeningly good pass protection, results are a bit different, aren't they?
I feel like Dan Marino has spoiled this fanbase so much that we don't even understand that receivers who are being paid a lot of money need to go up and make plays, too. I honestly like Brian Hartline, I think he can be a cog in a good offensive attack, but when was the last time you saw Brian Hartline actually go up and make a play for his quarterback? I thought Jarvis Landry was finally going to be that guy, and the dude can't hold on to the dang football through four weeks.
It's just, whatever. Again, I'm totally on board with drafting a QB in the first round this season, but do you really think you are going to get magical results with this same coaching and offensive unit?
Not me. I want to see them go get a legitimate #1 WR or a top TE. I want the team to have a matchup nightmare on offense, especially in the red zone. I think this offense is a player or two away from being really, really good.
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I think that if we can get Rishard Matthews into the starting lineup, our WR corps will be fine. The way I see it is that right now we have 2 smurfs starting on the boundary. Matthews is more physical with more size, I think he would be a good candidate to replace Brian Hartline opposite MW.
What we need is a 6'6" tight end. I really wish we had rolled the dice on that Troy Niklas kid from Notre Dame in the 2nd round. He looks to me like he's going to be a rich man's Anthony Fasano, when we are sticking with the poor man's Anthony Fasano.
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who the hecks ever said rg3 had pocket presence??? he's awful in the pocket...
I agree with you. In fact in my earlier post I wrote this: "I contend, they don't have better pocket presence".
Many people equate pocket presence with the ability to avoid sacks.
yes...we must incorporate swirl routes...run around in circles
It comes from the Don Curlyell route tree.
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yes...we must incorporate swirl routes...run around in circles
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I'd much rather go with Tannehill the next 7 or so years then restart the QB search.