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Examining how much Dolphins’ Tannehill has improved

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A 10-pack of Dolphins notes on a Monday:

• One of Adam Gase’s missions, beyond transforming this into a winning organization, was making Ryan Tannehill a better quarterback. And in barely more than half a season, Gase already has done it, with Tannehill obviously also deserving a large share of the credit.

Tannehill’s passer rating has risen from 88.7 last season to 91.3, 16th best among all starters and ahead of, among others, Eli Manning (88.4 entering the Giants’ Monday night game), Jameis Winston (87.5), Carson Palmer (86), Cam Newton (86), Joe Flacco (78.3), Jay Cutler (77.1) and Brock Osweiler (74.1).

Tannehill is averaging a career-high 8.0 yards per attempt, better than his career mark of 7.0.

He’s completing 65.3 percent of his passes, well ahead of his 62.3 career mark.

• During the past four games, he has a passer rating of more than 97 in three of them – 97.4 against Pittsburgh, 99.4 against Buffalo and 130.6 against San Diego --- and has four touchdown passes and no interceptions. That 130.6 against the Chargers was the second-best of his career.

A huge key: He has been sacked only three times in those four games.

• This also speaks well of Gase: Chicago’s Cutler posted a career-high 92.3 rating in his one year with Gase as his offensive coordinator but has slipped to 77.1 this season without Gase.

• Passer rating can be an overrated stat, but this might shock you: According to ProFootballReference.com, Tannehill now ranks 27th in NFL history in career passer rating, among qualifying players, at 85.9.

The five directly ahead of him: Otto Graham, Dan Marino, Andrew Luck and Trent Green and Brett Favre (those last two are at 86, just a shade ahead of Tannehill).

Among the hundreds of quarterbacks behind Tannehill in all-time passer rating: Donovan McNabb, Jim Kelly, Flacco, Eli Manning, Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman, Boomer Esiason, Dan Fouts and Warren Moon.

Does this mean Tannehill is better than Kelly, Aikman and Fouts? Of course not. It also raises issues with the NFL’s passer rating formula, to an extent. But it is impressive, nevertheless.

• Two areas where Tannehill must improve: He has a 79 passer rating on third down, which is 11th in the AFC.

And only 37.8 percent of his third down throws have been parlayed into first downs, which ranks 19th. The top two in that category: Tom Brady at 66.4 and Drew Brees at 55.3.

• According to Elias: When Kiko Alonso returned an interception 60 yards for a touchdown with 1:01 remaining in the fourth quarter, it was by far the latest in a game that Miami had an interception returned for a game-winning touchdown. The previous latest was by Kenny Mixon with 9:51 to go in the fourth quarter in a game against Denver in 2001.

• Quite a first game for Earl Mitchell off injured reserve; Pro Football Focus rated him Miami’s best defender on Sunday, with three runs stops and three quarterback hurries in 31 highly productive snaps.

• Marquies Gray has been a revelation for Miami, with timely catches and a few outstanding blocks each game, including one on Jay Ajayi’s 40-yard run.
Pro Football Focus has him ranked 37th among all tight ends. Gray played 29 of 51 snaps on Sunday; Dion Sims returned from his concussion and played 49.

• Couple notable snap counts from Sunday: Safety Bacarri Rambo continues to get a bigger role on defense, playing 56 of Miami’s 77 defensive snaps. Michael Thomas, conversely, played 27 snaps on defense…

Mario Williams played just 26 snaps, compared with 55 for Andre Branch, 43 for Cam Wake, and 41 for Jason Jones… Though they all have roles on special teams, offensive snaps continue to be limited for Miami’s offensive skill position rookies. Jakeem Grant got one snap on offense, Kenyan Drake two and Leonte Carroo none.

• Count NBC’s Tony Dungy among those who says he’s now a believer in Miami. And Rodney Harrison said Miami’s running game makes them legitimate.
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http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article114720223.html
 
Earl Mitchell and Rambo coming into our defense could make a big difference, especially Mitchell.

Our D line is playing very well, and kiko is a very solid lb, we just need much better play from the secondary. Hopefully when Howard and Cullivee come back they can inprove us.

Tannehill has been excellent along with our running game and o line over the last 4 games... Let's keep it rollin in LA.
 
I think he played almost as well for most of 2014. His movement in and out of the pocket has improved but most everything else was just as good.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
I think he played almost as well for most of 2014. His movement in and out of the pocket has improved but most everything else was just as good.
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he's the same qb he's just got a little more active feet and he's not getting murdered every time he snaps the ball out of rush 4 and drop 7 looks

and for once he has the benefit of a running game that teams must account for
 
We're finally showing some depth on defense. For a long time if a starter went out we were screwed off jump. It's good to see guys come in and contribute that you rarely hear about. Rambo and Gray have been pleasant surprises.
 
hoops said:
he's the same qb he's just got a little more active feet and he's not getting murdered every time he snaps the ball out of rush 4 and drop 7 looks

and for once he has the benefit of a running game that teams must account for
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those active feet can't be emphasized enough....huge

active feet + 1 or more extra seconds after the snap = offensive competence
 
The two areas I think he has improved this year:

1. Rediscovered his movement in the pocket / ability to escape the pocket that he had as a rookie. Competent OL play has certainly helped him there.

2. Touch passing. I think he's improved on that.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
The two areas I think he has improved this year:

1. Rediscovered his movement in the pocket / ability to escape the pocket that he had as a rookie. Competent OL play has certainly helped him there.

2. Touch passing. I think he's improved on that.
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He's made a couple touch passes the last few games that I was surprised by. He's been a bit hit or miss with them in the past...
 
throwing the fade better

the throw to Williams was placed spot on outside shoulder where he could catch away from the lb coverage and drop to the ground in bounds

definitely more touch with the fades which are one of the most difficult throws to make
 
hoops said:
throwing the fade better

the throw to Williams was placed spot on outside shoulder where he could catch away from the lb coverage and drop to the ground in bounds

definitely more touch with the fades which are one of the most difficult throws to make
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I wonder if we'll see it in the end zone more. In the past we'd try it, and I'd comment that we should have just spiked the ball...

If Tannehill is improved on it, maybe he and Parker can get in sync on it. We need a "break glass" play at the 5...
 
TheWozz said:
I wonder if we'll see it in the end zone more. In the past we'd try it, and I'd comment that we should have just spiked the ball...

If Tannehill is improved on it, maybe he and Parker can get in sync on it. We need a "break glass" play at the 5...
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yeah you run those with parker and if you got press you could run them with landry and caroo too

but parker should be plan a there...iso and play the jump ball in the tight red with dvp

we ran those with hartline and yeah all we did was waste downs...but their option routes based on leverage and coverage played
 
hoops said:
he's the same qb he's just got a little more active feet and he's not getting murdered every time he snaps the ball out of rush 4 and drop 7 looks

and for once he has the benefit of a running game that teams must account for
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My thoughts exactly. I think the rest of the offense is playing at his level. There was never a doubt in my mind about RT's talent or courage. Leadership was an area he needed to pick up the slack in and I think he's done that. He's cementing this team as his, a few more W's will start to show everyone else.
 
Quick side note about Parker. What a go up and grab that ball where we got called for holding. That is what I want to see and we haven't seen in a few weeks. Three guys around him and he just went up and got that sucker loved it.
 
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