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Hey Guys and Chicks (I know you're out there) I would just like someone to logically explain why we would draft Matt Ryan over Brian Brohm.

Matt Ryan's numbers look like this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=146254

* I have read that Parcells likes a Big QB. Ryan is listed @ 6'5" 218lbs.

Now For Brian Brohm:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=164609

* Also note that Brian Brohm is a big QB as well 6'4" 228. What's a one inch diffrence?

Now when I look at both of these Stud QB's numbers the thing that stands out to me is Turnovers. Now consider that the ACC is a weaker conference then the Big East and Matt Ryan has 7 more picks then Big Brian. As we all know you can't win by turning the ball over.

* Yet another note, I have heard that Brian Brohm is injury prone. Well I know of only 2 injuries over his four year career at UL. He hurt his knee before the Gator Bowl his Sophmore year but bounced back from that injury very quickly and started his Junior year. A few games into his Junior year he broke his thumb on his throwing hand but once again bounced back and led the Cardinals to their first BCS game and first BCS win against the ACC Wake Forest Demon Deacons in the Orange Bowl. Now is two injuries really considered injury prone? Is there really that big of a difference between 6'4" and 6'5"? Is there a problem with turning the ball over less in a better conference?

Now don't get me wrong I am all about drafting D-Line with the number one overall or even trading down to acquire more first day picks but if it comes down to drafting another QB I don't why everyone is so high on Matt Ryan.

Thanks Guys!!!:up:
 
I don't want either one of them. They won't be there at #32, and we aren't taking a QB with the #1.
 
Which guy is more accurate, can they both make "all the throws"? I kinda like Chad Henne more than these two guys personally. How did Brohm do this past year when all was against him? poor team play etc?
 
Hey Guys and Chicks (I know you're out there) I would just like someone to logically explain why we would draft Matt Ryan over Brian Brohm.

Matt Ryan's numbers look like this:

Stat OverviewPassingYEARCMPATTYDSCMP%YPALNGTDINTSACKRAT2004357135049.34.933223591.552005121195151462.17.7661855135.682006263427294261.66.8979151019126.382007388654450759.36.8971311921127.04

* I have read that Parcells likes a Big QB. Ryan is listed @ 6'5" 218lbs.

Now For Brian Brohm:

Stat OverviewPassingYEARCMPATTYDSCMP%YPALNGTDINTSACKRAT2004669881967.38.36746211153.672005207301288368.89.587619517166.732006199313304963.69.747516516159.082007308473402465.18.5181301224152.43

* Also note that Brian Brohm is a big QB as well 6'4" 228. What's a one inch diffrence?

Now when I look at both of these Stud QB's numbers the thing that stands out to me is Turnovers. Now consider that the ACC is a weaker conference then the Big East and Matt Ryan has 7 more picks then Big Brian. As we all know you can't win by turning the ball over.

* Yet another note, I have heard that Brian Brohm is injury prone. Well I know of only 2 injuries over his four year career at UL. He hurt his knee before the Gator Bowl his Sophmore year but bounced back from that injury very quickly and started his Junior year. A few games into his Junior year he broke his thumb on his throwing hand but once again bounced back and led the Cardinals to their first BCS game and first BCS win against the ACC Wake Forest Demon Deacons in the Orange Bowl. Now is two injuries really considered injury prone? Is there really that big of a difference between 6'4" and 6'5"? Is there a problem with turning the ball over less in a better conference? Please help me understand.

Although I don't have any proof other than what I see with my eyes, Matt Ryan just makes all the throws needed from an NFL QB. He throws the deep out better than Brohm. He has a stronger arm than Brohm. (Ryan has a gun throwing against his body. It really blows me away). Matt Ryan just has all the tools to be a pro ready QB. Brohm not so much. He still looks like a college QB IMO. Ryan also moves well and seem sto have the footwork and mechanics of a pro QB.

You asked! :up:
 
We're not going quarterback with the #1 overall pick. Woodson might be there at 32 and that'd be fine with me, but no way we take a quarterback first. Chris Long sounds good to me.
 
We're not going quarterback with the #1 overall pick. Woodson might be there at 32 and that'd be fine with me, but no way we take a quarterback first. Chris Long sounds good to me.

That wasn't the question. :D
 
I don't want either one of them. They won't be there at #32, and we aren't taking a QB with the #1.

Well I said the same thing. I want to Draft D-line. But there are some people out there that want to Draft a QB in round numero uno. I am just saying that if we were to draft one of these guys why not Brohm?
 
Although I don't have any proof other than what I see with my eyes, Matt Ryan just makes all the throws needed from an NFL QB. He throws the deep out better than Brohm. He has a stronger arm than Brohm. (Ryan has a gun throwing against his body. It really blows me away). Matt Ryan just has all the tools to be a pro ready QB. Brohm not so much. He still looks like a college QB IMO. Ryan also moves well and seem sto have the footwork and mechanics of a pro QB.

You asked! :up:

I appreciate your input. I just thought after seeing Brohm play live over the past 4 years that he has alot of the tools that you metioned. He has a good mechanics and can throw the long ball as well as anyone. Accuracy isn't really an issue and stands tall in the pocket. Whether he is more NFL ready is yet to be seen.
 
We're not going quarterback with the #1 overall pick. Woodson might be there at 32 and that'd be fine with me, but no way we take a quarterback first. Chris Long sounds good to me.

I really didn't think that Woodson would even be in this conversation.
 
Which guy is more accurate, can they both make "all the throws"? I kinda like Chad Henne more than these two guys personally. How did Brohm do this past year when all was against him? poor team play etc?

I see where you are coming from with the poor team play. All I can say to that is New Head Coach and a new system. We should all be used to poor team play behind these reasons exactly. We as Dolphin fans know that when you change coaches and systems there is an ajustment period. But even under these circumstances he still put up great numbers.
 
Although I don't have any proof other than what I see with my eyes, Matt Ryan just makes all the throws needed from an NFL QB. He throws the deep out better than Brohm. He has a stronger arm than Brohm. (Ryan has a gun throwing against his body. It really blows me away). Matt Ryan just has all the tools to be a pro ready QB. Brohm not so much. He still looks like a college QB IMO. Ryan also moves well and seem sto have the footwork and mechanics of a pro QB.

You asked! :up:

Ditto
 
Ryan has better pocket presence, accuracy, mobility, release, and toughness.

Plus, his interception numbers are misleading. His receivers were awful. For instance, in his last three games he threw three interceptions. Two were not his fault as his receiver dropped a catchable ball that went right into the defenders hands.

Ryan is a top five talent. Miami will consider him. Brohm they won't.
 
Well I said the same thing. I want to Draft D-line. But there are some people out there that want to Draft a QB in round numero uno. I am just saying that if we were to draft one of these guys why not Brohm?
I am not going to act like I know about either one since I have not really watched them very much. I have heard(I think it was Jaworski on the radio last week) that there are questions on how Brohm will adapt to the NFL. He was saying he is from a small town and always had his dad as a coach. Basically that he was kind of sheltered. I don't really know. I know that most of the so called "experts", like Ryan better.
 
Although I don't have any proof other than what I see with my eyes, Matt Ryan just makes all the throws needed from an NFL QB. He throws the deep out better than Brohm. He has a stronger arm than Brohm. (Ryan has a gun throwing against his body. It really blows me away). Matt Ryan just has all the tools to be a pro ready QB. Brohm not so much. He still looks like a college QB IMO. Ryan also moves well and seem sto have the footwork and mechanics of a pro QB.

You asked! :up:

stole the words out of my mouth. exactly. that besides the fact that "most" draft experts consider Ryan, not Brohm a top pick worthy player.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7715738/Dolphins-'open-for-business'-with-No.-1-pick

also, jeff ireland mentioned how impressed he was with matt ryan and how disappointed he was that he was unable to c him at the senior bowl practices. but he failed to mention how disappointed he was about not being able to c brian brohm. :up:
 
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