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Extremely detailed analysis of Tannehill (w/ game pics)

BlueFin said:
What you point out is two games where his opponent was a SUPERIOR team, and where he was trying to do too much to overcome the deficiency in talent.

I watched a crappy Jay Fiedler beat a far superior Peyton Manning in the playoffs because Fiedler had the better team.

Tannehill is fine and is only going to get better and better....he will start day one.
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Have you seen the two games I referenced?
 
One of the reasons I appreciate Ryan Tannehill is I've broken down several of his worst games and come away believing he really wasn't bad in those games.

Case in point, Oklahoma State. He was actually throwing the football really well in that game for anyone that cared to actually watch the film and break it down critically. I took a close look at that second half when he supposedly melted down. I didn't see it.

You know how he threw that first interception of his in the second half? He was throwing a comeback to Jeff Fuller on the left hand side, which is a timing/anticipation route where the ball must come out before Fuller has made his break. Tannehill executed, but Fuller didn't. When Fuller broke down to come out of his break, he slid to the ground, the bird was already in the air, there was nothing Tannehill could do about it but watch as the defensive back easily intercepted the football because Fuller wasn't in position to grab it first.

Yet, you still see people like LikeUntoGod cite "3 interceptions in the second half..." as if they're saying something meaningful. Where it pisses me off, is when I know that person is well aware of the fact that this interception was 100% not Ryan Tannehill's fault...and they say it anyway. Nothing pisses me off quite like INTENTIONALLY and KNOWINGLY trying to mislead people.

His second interception of the second half of that Oklahoma State game was his own fault. I thought the play calling didn't help, because the reality is Texas A&M had shown a certain formation and play design to the Cowboys defense a number of times prior to this interception, and it was enough for the corner with flat responsibility to adjust to the tendency and freelance to the ball. Tannehill should have seen it and not thrown it, but the play calling was faulty as well.

The third interception of the second half was about half and half. If you really look at it, Ryan Tannehill threw to Jeff Fuller on the perimeter and Fuller got his hands on the football, popped it up instead of catching it, and the defense came down with the tip drill. Normally you want to place the blame for that on Fuller, but the simple fact of the matter is Ryan Tannehill's ball placement was too far inside and made the catch harder than it should have been. This is consistently one of the biggest criticisms I have of Ryan Tannnehill. His ball placement on the perimeter of the field is consistently too far inside. He's too worried about throwing an uncatchable ball. He needs to work better on getting it to the outside shoulder anyway. Still, a drop and popped up interception can hardly be said to be 100% Ryan's fault.

Another case in point would be the Texas game. Did you know that receivers dropped 8 passes in that game, including MULTIPLE touchdowns? You certainly didn't know that if you're just looking at stat lines. We're talking 8 passes where the ball hits the receiver right on the hands, flat out dropped. We're not even talking about contested catches. At least two of them, and probably three, would have been touchdowns.

One of those drops, Ryan Swope went out of bounds on his route because he couldn't handle the jam. That's not Ryan Tannehill's fault. He put the ball right where it needed to be for a touchdown catch and run, and I think Swope would have scored. Swope is a heady player though and knew that if he caught the ball, they would have been penalized for illegal touching. The team would be better off if he slapped the ball down, which he did. What makes it worse is this was actually a very pretty play by Ryan Tannehill. He got pressured in the pocket and rolled out to his left, throwing the ball against his momentum, taking a huge shot from Keenan Robinson right in the ribs as he threw the ball, yet still dropping the football prettily to Swope on the run toward the end zone for what surely would have been the sort of highlight reel you would see over and over again on ESPN and NFL Network during their Draft coverage.

I saw one play where Tannehill threw Nwachuku open but he didn't adjust to it, another where he threw a timing play to Nwachuku on the comeback but he ran his route two steps too far up the field and didn't come back down his stem for the ball. Similarly there was a timing play Ryan threw to the right spot but Swope got tangled with Vaccaro and couldn't get out there.

There was another beautiful throw by Tannehill to Jeff Fuller in the end zone that Fuller caught, but the damn fool couldn't even get one foot in bounds even though he had the position to do so. Chalk that up as yet another touchdown that Ryan Tannehill "didn't" throw in the game. Oh and let's not forget a quick hitch Ryan threw as well as he could, which would have been a completion that would have helped keep a scoring drive going, but Fuller pushed off egregiously, was called for it. The penalty yards killed the drive. I saw two more balls Ryan made a great decision to throw up to Fuller in single coverage but Jeff just didn't go up for the ball the way he should have, especially him being a big receiver.

I saw five throwaways and two balls tipped at the line.

So, we're talking 29 incomplete passes in the game, 8 drops, 4 more balls he threw to the right spot but the receiver let him down, 5 throwaways, 2 balls tipped at the line and 2 more balls he threw in sort of 50/50 type "go up and get it" situations which fell incomplete. Then there's the push-off penalty. His actual accuracy in the game was closer to 35 of 43 (81%) than it was 20 of 49 (41%), and he wasn't all that far away from having thrown five touchdowns as opposed to just two.

The interceptions, they were his fault. He certainly wasn't perfect in the game. Some throws were just confusing. But the details matter.
 
ckparrothead said:
One of the reasons I appreciate Ryan Tannehill is I've broken down several of his worst games and come away believing he really wasn't bad in those games.

Case in point, Oklahoma State. He was actually throwing the football really well in that game for anyone that cared to actually watch the film and break it down critically. I took a close look at that second half when he supposedly melted down. I didn't see it.

You know how he threw that first interception of his in the second half? He was throwing a comeback to Jeff Fuller on the left hand side, which is a timing/anticipation route where the ball must come out before Fuller has made his break. Tannehill executed, but Fuller didn't. When Fuller broke down to come out of his break, he slid to the ground, the bird was already in the air, there was nothing Tannehill could do about it but watch as the defensive back easily intercepted the football because Fuller wasn't in position to grab it first.

Yet, you still see people like LikeUntoGod cite "3 interceptions in the second half..." as if they're saying something meaningful. Where it pisses me off, is when I know that person is well aware of the fact that this interception was 100% not Ryan Tannehill's fault...and they say it anyway. Nothing pisses me off quite like INTENTIONALLY and KNOWINGLY trying to mislead people.

His second interception of the second half of that Oklahoma State game was his own fault. I thought the play calling didn't help, because the reality is Texas A&M had shown a certain formation and play design to the Cowboys defense a number of times prior to this interception, and it was enough for the corner with flat responsibility to adjust to the tendency and freelance to the ball. Tannehill should have seen it and not thrown it, but the play calling was faulty as well.

The third interception of the second half was about half and half. If you really look at it, Ryan Tannehill threw to Jeff Fuller on the perimeter and Fuller got his hands on the football, popped it up instead of catching it, and the defense came down with the tip drill. Normally you want to place the blame for that on Fuller, but the simple fact of the matter is Ryan Tannehill's ball placement was too far inside and made the catch harder than it should have been. This is consistently one of the biggest criticisms I have of Ryan Tannnehill. His ball placement on the perimeter of the field is consistently too far inside. He's too worried about throwing an uncatchable ball. He needs to work better on getting it to the outside shoulder anyway. Still, a drop and popped up interception can hardly be said to be 100% Ryan's fault.

Another case in point would be the Texas game. Did you know that receivers dropped 8 passes in that game, including MULTIPLE touchdowns? You certainly didn't know that if you're just looking at stat lines. We're talking 8 passes where the ball hits the receiver right on the hands, flat out dropped. We're not even talking about contested catches. At least two of them, and probably three, would have been touchdowns.

One of those drops, Ryan Swope went out of bounds on his route because he couldn't handle the jam. That's not Ryan Tannehill's fault. He put the ball right where it needed to be for a touchdown catch and run, and I think Swope would have scored. Swope is a heady player though and knew that if he caught the ball, they would have been penalized for illegal touching. The team would be better off if he slapped the ball down, which he did. What makes it worse is this was actually a very pretty play by Ryan Tannehill. He got pressured in the pocket and rolled out to his left, throwing the ball against his momentum, taking a huge shot from Keenan Robinson right in the ribs as he threw the ball, yet still dropping the football prettily to Swope on the run toward the end zone for what surely would have been the sort of highlight reel you would see over and over again on ESPN and NFL Network during their Draft coverage.

I saw one play where Tannehill threw Nwachuku open but he didn't adjust to it, another where he threw a timing play to Nwachuku on the comeback but he ran his route two steps too far up the field and didn't come back down his stem for the ball. Similarly there was a timing play Ryan threw to the right spot but Swope got tangled with Vaccaro and couldn't get out there.

There was another beautiful throw by Tannehill to Jeff Fuller in the end zone that Fuller caught, but the damn fool couldn't even get one foot in bounds even though he had the position to do so. Chalk that up as yet another touchdown that Ryan Tannehill "didn't" throw in the game. Oh and let's not forget a quick hitch Ryan threw as well as he could, which would have been a completion that would have helped keep a scoring drive going, but Fuller pushed off egregiously, was called for it. The penalty yards killed the drive. I saw two more balls Ryan made a great decision to throw up to Fuller in single coverage but Jeff just didn't go up for the ball the way he should have, especially him being a big receiver.

I saw five throwaways and two balls tipped at the line.

So, we're talking 29 incomplete passes in the game, 8 drops, 4 more balls he threw to the right spot but the receiver let him down, 5 throwaways, 2 balls tipped at the line and 2 more balls he threw in sort of 50/50 type "go up and get it" situations which fell incomplete. Then there's the push-off penalty. His actual accuracy in the game was closer to 35 of 43 (81%) than it was 20 of 49 (41%), and he wasn't all that far away from having thrown five touchdowns as opposed to just two.

The interceptions, they were his fault. He certainly wasn't perfect in the game. Some throws were just confusing. But the details matter.
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Good shout out................:lol:
 
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