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Haven't heard much about FA and the high caliber of DL. A few that come to mind and depending on our spending in other areas. The availability range and opportunity maybe very good this year.

Chris Jones
DJ Reader
Shelton
Pierce
Hargrave
To name a few. All about 26 years old
Good Run stoppers and some better than others at laying pressure on QB up the middle (seems like something we could use).

I was thinking maybe a DJ or Sheldon and a nice DE in the Draft...

Just wondering of you alls thoughts and kind of find a more interesting talking point than some that are popping up laterly.
 
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cuzinvinny said:
Haven't heard much about FA and the high caliber of DL. A few that come to mind and depending on our spending in other areas. The availability range and opportunity maybe very good this year.

Chris Jones
DJ Reader
Sheldon
Pierce
Hargrave
To name a few. All about 26 years old
Good Run stoppers and some better than others at laying pressure on QB up the middle (seems like something we could use).

I was thinking maybe a DJ or Sheldon and a nice DE in the Draft...

Just wondering of you alls thoughts and kind of find a more interesting talking point than some that are popping up laterly.
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I think thats a very realistic option Vin & would be very happy with it. :up:
 
IMHO there are a lot of solid options at DT/NT in this years FA market.

I expect Reader and Hargrave to be in the 12 million a year range on a 4 year contract. Not sure I can see us paying that much. One of Pierce/Harris/Reed is more likely IMHO.

Good depth at safety too. Decent at CB. Sadly, not much out there at tackle and guard. Hmmm, I see Panthers resigned Daryl Williams. He was one I expected us to target.
 
What, you didnt like all the sacks and pressures our pro bowl DL made this year???

.....in Madden.

So...Jones i think is re-signed. I like Wilkins and Jenkins.

In the draft, one guy i like a lot, that nobody talks about, is Alex Highsmith out of Charlotte. Even the guy from Utah, Brandon something.

We really need DE more than DT. We should be drafting nothing but DE's in the late rounds and in undrafted FA's too. Get way too many DE's, its been ages since we've had someone who can meet the opppsing QB.
 
Guess it comes down to ones personal preference. Me, would ideally like a DL that can bring as much overwhelming pressure up the middle. Not surprising to see Wilkins potential improve also with another stud DT, and thats after a FA OL upgrade of major significance.
See a solid 4-5 DE potential available at 26 pk.
Should be interesting to see the FO approach and get a more legitimate insight as to their way of thinking.
But the options and opportunities we've built definitely raise the excitement level.
 
cuzinvinny said:
Haven't heard much about FA and the high caliber of DL. A few that come to mind and depending on our spending in other areas. The availability range and opportunity maybe very good this year.

Chris Jones
DJ Reader
Shelton
Pierce
Hargrave
To name a few. All about 26 years old
Good Run stoppers and some better than others at laying pressure on QB up the middle (seems like something we could use).

I was thinking maybe a DJ or Sheldon and a nice DE in the Draft...

Just wondering of you alls thoughts and kind of find a more interesting talking point than some that are popping up laterly.
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People correctly focus FA signings at the 4-5 top position needs. Personally, I think Miami will sign a few at surprising positions, including DT. Any quality player is a target
 
fansinceGWilson said:
People correctly focus FA signings at the 4-5 top position needs. Personally, I think Miami will sign a few at surprising positions, including DT. Any quality player is a target
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Another phase of interest is to find out the FO's level of development. We may never be in such a good position Cap wise as this year. Do they get reasonably aggressive or pull back on the rains and tend to think on more the conservative approach. Go after young less expensive but possibly more of a gamble Drafty's or spend on quality and proven success. Hopefully is a blend of both but IMO making sure they take full advantage of the sacrifices this team and fan base has experienced this season especially considering some of the FA value we may never get another shot at. Its a nice crop of FA's IMO.
 
I wonder about Pierce as a plugging NT, run stuffer type. Probably wouldnt cost as much as the rest of the guys on the list, but idk really
 
I said I thought Pierce was somebody they would target. But the thing is, would it be smart to pay 10+ million a year, on a four year contract, for guys like Pierce and Harris when they were un-drafted and 7th rounders?

Maybe the team feels they could draft guys like DaVon Hamilton/Jordan Elliott/Leki Fotu/Rashard Lawrence in the 5th (or later) round(s)?

All things equal (If I had too) I'd rather spend 20 million on a very good offensive tackle than 10 million on a nice 2 down NT. I have little confidence in a team's ability to find a starting quality LOT in the late rounds of the draft. Matt Peart might be one but I doubt he lasts until the 5th round.
 
Russ57 said:
I said I thought Pierce was somebody they would target. But the thing is, would it be smart to pay 10+ million a year, on a four year contract, for guys like Pierce and Harris when they were un-drafted and 7th rounders?

Maybe the team feels they could draft guys like DaVon Hamilton/Jordan Elliott/Leki Fotu/Rashard Lawrence in the 5th (or later) round(s)?

All things equal (If I had too) I'd rather spend 20 million on a very good offensive tackle than 10 million on a nice 2 down NT. I have little confidence in a team's ability to find a starting quality LOT in the late rounds of the draft. Matt Peart might be one but I doubt he lasts until the 5th round.
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All things to consider, for sure.
 
If I was the GM I think I'd look at teams that are in cap trouble and identify players of theirs that I wanted and felt they might not be able to sign.

For example, the Steelers are going to be hard pressed to extend both Dupree and Hargrave. Maybe they have to let Ramon Foster go? You figure the Jags are going to have to cut Marcell Dareus. Vikings might have to let Rhodes and Griffen go.

Now would any of them be willing to consider a "sign and trade"? They get a late round draft pick (instead of nothing) and we avoid a bidding war and gain a known contract.
 
I would be willing to through big $$$ at Chris Jones but he is going to be tagged by KC.

I would not mind a solid versatile DL for reasonable money.

The DT Draft class is pretty deep but a DE with pass rush ability is going to be hard to find. Might have to trade up from 18 for Chiasson or Gross-Matos at 18 or hope he is there at 26.

Zack Baun from Wisconsin is an OLB who good pass rushing ability who I like late 1st-early 2nd.

Kinlaw can rush the passer from inside and could flex out to DE too but they would have to take him at 5 or again move up from 18.
 
cuzinvinny said:
Another phase of interest is to find out the FO's level of development. We may never be in such a good position Cap wise as this year. Do they get reasonably aggressive or pull back on the rains and tend to think on more the conservative approach. Go after young less expensive but possibly more of a gamble Drafty's or spend on quality and proven success. Hopefully is a blend of both but IMO making sure they take full advantage of the sacrifices this team and fan base has experienced this season especially considering some of the FA value we may never get another shot at. Its a nice crop of FA's IMO.
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I think they'll do close to what you suggest - maybe not a top tier FA. Likely 1-2 30+ FAs as rental
 
Shelton and bringing back Jenkins would be awesome. I don't see us getting any type of edge players in FA. Along with blinside protectors (mostly LT) and QB it's the positions where you make the most from paying the rookie wage.
 
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