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He's good, but he's madly overrated. He was getting tooled by Andrei Arlovski before Andrei got over-confident and lunged in and caught a straight right.
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Look at his record. It's remarkable. Arlovski was doing good. But never posed a threat. Fedor got one good hit and it was done. That's what makes him so good. His outstanding record of over 30 wins and only one loss. Which came from him getting cut. He was winning the fight. But got cut. The ref stopped the fight because of it. Even though he was winning in every scorecard. So in reality the man is undefeated. That's unheard of in MMA. You have to respect that. A lot of those fights were close. But the man always finds a way to win. And that's what makes a champion. Just watching the suplex that Randleman put him in alone shows how amazing he his. If that was you or I we would be in a wheelchair. Instead he ended up winning the fight.
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Fedor is nasty, I'm glad to see he's coming back.
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His record: exactly what makes him overrated. He's got a who's who list of CANS, and a handful of legit wins over contenders. Who other than Big Nog, Barnett, and maybe Sylvia and Arlovski is really an impressive victory?
I respect his ability, he's very talented, but MMA fans like to paint him as the godfather of MMA. I don't agree with that at all.
This guy is a beast as well.
Not really, he just exposed Kimbum slice for the no talent backyard brawler that he is. Dude actually had the balls to call out Chuck Liddell, and he got KO'd by a soft punch from Seth. I litterly Lol'd on that one.
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fedor is the best there is. he is an absolute freak. the only knock is the questionable competition he's faced b/c he hasn't made the move to the ufc. i've been watching mma since the beginning and i have never seen anything like him. to completely dismantle guys like he has is unbelievable.
kud, come on man, overrated? who has ever been as dominant as fedor? the only other fighter that was as dominant was gracie - and thats just b/c people didn't know how to defend against his submissions yet. there are absolutely no holes in fedor's game. i would love to see him and lesnar go after each other like the giant unhuman freaks they are.
kud, come on man, overrated? who has ever been as dominant as fedor? the only other fighter that was as dominant was gracie - and thats just b/c people didn't know how to defend against his submissions yet. there are absolutely no holes in fedor's game. i would love to see him and lesnar go after each other like the giant unhuman freaks they are.
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His record: exactly what makes him overrated. He's got a who's who list of CANS, and a handful of legit wins over contenders. Who other than Big Nog, Barnett, and maybe Sylvia and Arlovski is really an impressive victory?
I respect his ability, he's very talented, but MMA fans like to paint him as the godfather of MMA. I don't agree with that at all.
This guy is a beast as well.
Not really, he just exposed Kimbum slice for the no talent backyard brawler that he is. Dude actually had the balls to call out Chuck Liddell, and he got KO'd by a soft punch from Seth. I litterly Lol'd on that one.
He defeated to UFC champions back to back. That's impressive along with all his other wins. His wins against CroCop and Nogueira are two great wins. His ability to beat people that are bigger and outweigh him is very impressive. Size doesn't matter with Fedor. He will take you out. And the one thing I like the most about him. Is that the man is a class act. A very humble person who treats all fighters with great respect. He doesn't trash talk. Or show off at all. The man is the champion and undefeated besides one technacality. That's unheard of in MMA. You have to respect that and give the man his props. Until someone beats him. He's still the champion.
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The only reason Fedor hasn't moved to the UFC is because of Dana White.
Dana has constantly trashed talked Fedor. And Fedor doesn't like it. And refuses to fight for him. Not only that Fedor doesn't need Dana or the UFC. The man is quite successful and draws bigger crowds than any UFC fight. He's a humble guy that treats all other fighters with respect. And does things his way. At the same time Fedor beating 2 UFC champions back to back. Must have put a smile on his face. As for Lesnar and Fedor. I would love to see them fight. But it will be quick and short. One punch from Fedor and the giant Lesnar will go down. I've seen Fedor do it to many times. The man has amazing punching power and accurancy. Not to mention his ground game is the best there is. Lesnar is just big and strong and uses that to his advantage. Fedor would pick apart his weakness. The bigger they are. The harder they fall.
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Didn't say he wasn't impressive. He's the best heavyweight. But it's been probably the weakest division in all of MMA for a long time. I said he's overrated. I go to some MMA sites and people talk about Fedor like he's an 'unbeatable cyborg.'
Also, Crocop was exposed when he came to the UFC. Tim Sylvia has always been the sluggish tall dude that used his reach to beat poor opponents. When he fought Couture he was exposed.
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Chuck Liddell was 18-2, and a reigning champion for years in his prime against much stiffer competition in my book. To me dominance only goes as far are level of competition. Tossing around a bunch of japanese tomato cans is hardly stiff competition.
Not only that but I think Chuck could beat Fedor at heavyweight. But we'll never get to find out because Fedor refuses to come to the UFC.
Dolphins 9554 that is very inaccurate. The biggest reason Fedor wouldn't sign is because the UFC wanted him to be exclusive to the UFC, aka he couldn't compete in other MMA related events. Fedor wanted to continue to compete in combat Sambo. As I heard it Fedor was going to be the highest paid fighter in the UFC if he had signed. It's a big reason Couture quit the UFC briefly and why he demanded to negotiate a new contract.
i didnt hear that at all. i heard he wasnt going to be that highly paid, it was a 10 fight contract, but if he lost 1 fight UFC could shred the contract up and basically kick him out. if he won all 10 fights, his contract would automatically be renewed for the same terms for another 10 fights at the same money. i heard the other fighting thing as well, and i could understand UFCs stance on that.
btw, im not sure how you can really say he got "tooled" by AA. he was throwing punches while Fedor was feeling the fight out. he never connected with anything clean on Fedor.
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Fedor doesn't need the UFC. He attracts bigger crowds than any UFC fight event. He didn't like the contract. He also didn't like Dana talking trash about him. He came from Pride. A great company that treated him with a lot of respect and let him fight where ever he wanted. It's pretty well known that Dana trash talked Fedor quite a bit. I'm sure that factored into the equation. Why would you want to work for someone that talks bad about you? When you can make quite a bit of money on your own and then some. Fedor taking on and beating 2 UFC champions in a row. Is a nice FU to Dana White. Dana wants a monopoly on MMA. Fedor is the only one stopping him.
chuck was a great fighter for years but his issue has always been his chin. he went down by a weak shot from rampage and got flat out embarrassed by rashad. it was never an issue b/c his hands were light years faster than everyone else and his ability to land a damaging blow when retreating made it damn hard for anyone to tag him. but as he got older - so did his reflexes - and his ability to take a punch got exposed badly. fedor is so technical and precise i find it hard to believe that chuck could go 3 or 5 rounds without getting tagged a few times. in his prime (early 30's) he would've tried to put on a good show vs. fedor but eventually would have been knocked out, IMO.
i know dana trashes him but i never heard that about the contract. i've heard fedor say a few times that he would like to fight in the ufc - especially couture (who wants to fight fedor as well) - but i have to claim ignorance as to why he hasn't made the move.
the competition knock is valid - although i would say st pierre's division is by far the weakest in mma. silvia and orlovsky's best days are probably behind them but the way he just dismantled silvia was incredible. he knocked 6 foot 10 silvia up off his feet with that uppercut! say what you will about silvia, but his chin is solid. to take him out with a few quick punches is impressive any way you look at it. the fact that fedor has never been in trouble in any fight (that cut was clown shoes) has to say something.