Feeley Should Start

[DolfanChris06]

let feely start

 

[adamprez2003]

Knowledge of the system can approximate feel, just b/c you've seen everything before so it makes anticipation easier, but it takes a very long time. Think Testaverde, despite possibly some of the best physical skills ever, he didn't become even a fair QB until he'd been in the league 10+ years. If we wait 5 more years for AJ he may become a lesser version of what Testaverde is now. IMO that's not anything worth waiting for.

As for Farve and Young, they showed flashes of feel and the teams knew it that's why despite poor stats they garned pretty high trades. AJ also garnered a fairly high trade, but I think everybody agrees we overpaid.

I actually disagree about Favre. I would say 2 QBs who lacked "feel" as I think you define it, were Elway and Favre originally. They didn't develop any feel for the game until later in their careers. What seperated them and what they relied on early in their careers was their amazing athletic ability. They didnt anticipate defenses nor did they anticipate plays developing for the beginning of their careers. Nor do i remember them ever flashing "feel" early in their career. The only thing they anticipated was the rush which is just one aspect of the QBs job. I would say that Daunte Culpepper is a great example of a player that had no feel for most of his career but instead relied upon his athletic ability both running and throwing. Its only in the last two seasons that the game has become second nature to him and he has developed that "feel" that you talk about. Which is why I disagree that you are born with "feel". I believe the "feel" you describe eventually comes to quarterbacks with experience. Some never pick it up (e.g. Jeff George) no matter how much time you give them. I think the argument you're making is that you believe AJ is going to be like Jeff george in that no matter how much playing time you give him he'll never settle into the game. If that's the case I would disagree because I dont see how anyone could predict that especially if they dont watch him every day in practice. It would seem more a prediction fit for Nostradamus than a scout. Leaf is a prime example. Noone predicted that he would be such an utter bust so quickly. Now maybe your definition is more expansive than what I'm picking up and if so all that Ive said is pointless but that's what I'm getting right now

 

[Bigbucks24]

I like reading your posts Infins b/c you're generally well reasoned. However, in this instant I believe you're wrong. Feel is more than just poise in the pocket. Lack of poise is just a symptom of lacking feel. The same with lack of touch. It's a symptom. I said in one of my posts long ago that "i'm sure AJ has the ability to vary his throws". You haven't seen it b/c he doesn't see the play developing and doesn't know when to vary his throws. Feel is the ability to anticipate how a play will develop given specific routes and protections vs. a given defense. AJ lacks that anticipation. Gus is no Montana either, but he does show feel sometimes. It's the reason why despite being an avg. QB most of his career he's had enough flashes to make the probowl. This doesn't mean that he'll flash this year, but it does mean that it is possible. AJ, on the other hand, has never shown that anticipation, flashes or otherwise. Historically, QBs that don't at least show flashes of anticipation never develop it. So what reason is there to trust or even hope that AJ will show it now? You might as well bank on me getting that late growth spurt so I can become Shaq's backup.

I found this very interesting. I have heard the phrase, "the game slowed down for him." I heard it about Drew Brees last year. He became comfortable with the offense and the speed of the NFL so he was able to see plays develop and anticipate. Is it possible that the game has not slowed down for AJ? Could this be why he seems nervous and does not anticipate plays developing? Is this one reason he does not have "feel"? And if so, it sounds like "feel" can be learned. Interesting.

 

[Wildbill3]

the fact is hes sucks

 

[inFINSible]

I found this very interesting. I have heard the phrase, "the game slowed down for him." I heard it about Drew Brees last year. He became comfortable with the offense and the speed of the NFL so he was able to see plays develop and anticipate. Is it possible that the game has not slowed down for AJ? Could this be why he seems nervous and does not anticipate plays developing? Is this one reason he does not have "feel"? And if so, it sounds like "feel" can be learned. Interesting.

Of course it can. AJ said the same thing last year when he started to improve towards the end of the season, the game started to slow down for him. "Feel" is just a voodoo term in this case, there's more than ample evidence that Feeley can improve with repetition and that he has the skills to do the job.

 

[CanadaPhinsFan]

I found this very interesting. I have heard the phrase, "the game slowed down for him." I heard it about Drew Brees last year. He became comfortable with the offense and the speed of the NFL so he was able to see plays develop and anticipate. Is it possible that the game has not slowed down for AJ? Could this be why he seems nervous and does not anticipate plays developing? Is this one reason he does not have "feel"? And if so, it sounds like "feel" can be learned. Interesting.

Maybe the game has slowed down some for AJ. But when the d-line is in your face in less than 2 seconds, it's all relative. Whether it has slowed down or not, that's just not enough time to make a play.

He has shown signs of feel. The pass to Thompson in the Pats game was a good example. He found a mismatch and tossed the ball up for the bigger recevier to go and get. To me that shows he had a feel for the game and took advantage of a situation when he was supposed to.