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Final Score: Jets v. Dolphins

This is the first time I've ever picked the Jets over the Dolphins. Sad day. Jets - 21 Dolphins - 13
 
I don't generally pick scores, just who wins. Sadly I pick the Jets. Not out of hope that they want to lose, but because the Jets are better than us. Hopefully this will propel Ross into firing Philbin and as was said earlier, give us a glimmer of hope.
 
Fins1971 said:
Love the post. I actually think we go a fourth straight game scoring 20 or under. But the defense steps up and we win 20-17.
JD Wammer Hammer come in and gloats that no team made it to 3 TD's and my theory is BS. He doesn't understand that 75% of the games follow my theory. He will beat his chest over the 25% of games that fall short or exceed the 5-6 TD average per game. :chuckle:

Would love to see offensive breakout, Just not seeing it this week. Unless Fitz is Fitz and gives us some short fields. But we probably make him look good like most of the QB's we have faced.
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I think this could be one of those games where Tannehill plays pretty well and we actually score 23 or 24 points.

As a result, his fanboy club will come in beating their chests "WHERE YOU AT HATERZ!!!!" They will ignore that we are still only 2-2 and right on track for the usual 7 or 8 win season. We might even make it to 4-2. In the end it won't matter. The season sample will bear out the same things it has for years.

At the conclusion of it all, we will hear the same excuses. The defense and especially the OL and coaching staff will get destroyed on FH. Not that those units do not deserve criticism. They do. It is just those things are irrelevant if we do not have the QB.

This isn't the NFL of the 70's where a power run game and a strong defense are imperative. I know Seattle won a championship based on those things, but in 2015 the rules are slanted so in favor of the QB and the offense in general, that if a team executes properly on offense, a strong defense just isn't going to stop them. We saw that in the SB. Seattle's defense did not all of the sudden suck. The Pats scored 4 TDs in that game because Brady executed. He comes to the line, sees what the defense is doing, and dissects it. Gronk can not be covered by one player. If a team singles him, they can not stop him. If a team doubles him, they still may not stop him, and Brady will just go to whichever WR he detects has the mismatch. It is pure precision and that is how he "dinks and dunks" a team to death. He is smart enough to instantly know where to go so that even if his primary is covered, he can get the ball out quickly. His OL is not great.

A team has to have a QB that can put points on the board. The ones who can execute at a high level, even against the good defenses, are the ones who can win 10+ games in more seasons than they do not. When we get that, THEN we can concern ourselves with tweaking the OL and adding a couple of pieces on defense. The thing is, if we were to get that QB, we would see that the OL is indeed good enough to win with and the coaching staff would appear more competent than they actually are.

Instead, at season's end, we will likely hear how great Tannehill is, and that he and a select few players are the cornerstone of a championship unit that just needs some cornfed, coaches, and LBs. What we should be doing is checking out that QB from the University of Cal, along with some others, with plans to draft a couple of them.
 
Flip Tanneflop said:
This isn't the NFL of the 70's where a power run game and a strong defense are imperative. I know Seattle won a championship based on those things, but in 2015 the rules are slanted so in favor of the QB and the offense in general, that if a team executes properly on offense, a strong defense just isn't going to stop them. We saw that in the SB. Seattle's defense did not all of the sudden suck. The Pats scored 4 TDs in that game because Brady executed. He comes to the line, sees what the defense is doing, and dissects it. Gronk can not be covered by one player. If a team singles him, they can not stop him. If a team doubles him, they still may not stop him, and Brady will just go to whichever WR he detects has the mismatch. It is pure precision and that is how he "dinks and dunks" a team to death. He is smart enough to instantly know where to go so that even if his primary is covered, he can get the ball out quickly. His OL is not great.
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Lot of truth to that statement.

I have been charting the scores of games this year to provide a NFL scoring analysis and help with my betting. Right now after 49 games played the average winning score is 29.3 points. Almost 30 points per game are needed to ensure you have a great chance of winning so far this year.

On the flip side (no pun intended) the losing score average is 17.7

47 points are scored in the average NFL game right now this year.

The charting shows that in a majority of games played you are going to have to top 25 points on offense to really have a good chance at winning. Like you mentioned until we can start doing that consistently blaming anyone else is pointless. It's the offenses job to score points and give us a solid chance at winning games. Right now they are way below the league averages and the main reason we are 1-2
 
5-11

(just remember that!)

(as long as we can find four other teams who have quit too by year's end)
 
Fins1971 said:
On the flip side, the losing score average is 17.7
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So you're telling me that so far in three NFL games this year, the Miami Dolphins aren't even scoring enough points to lose? Wow! Because this team isn't seeing anything near 30.
 
Trifecta Nation said:
So you're telling me that so far in three NFL games this year, the Miami Dolphins aren't even scoring enough points to lose? Wow! Because this team isn't seeing anything near 30.
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Scoring 12 points - 1 win in 49 games
Scoring 17 points - 2 wins in 49 games (we have one of those 2 wins)
Scoring 19 points - 4 wins in 49 games
Scoring 20 points - 8 wins in 49 games
Scoring 23 points - 10 wins in 49 games
Scoring 24 points - 16 wins in 49 games
Scoring 26 points - 19 wins in 49 games
Scoring 27 points - 25 wins in 49 games. (51%)

Yep in the current NFL you have to score 27 points to have a 50/50 chance at winning the game.
 
Trifecta Nation said:
So you're telling me that so far in three NFL games this year, the Miami Dolphins aren't even scoring enough points to lose? Wow! Because this team isn't seeing anything near 30.
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To take this further, there have been 49 victories recorded so far this NFL season. Of the 49, only FOUR have occurred when a team scored less than 20 points. One of those wins of course belongs to the Dolphins.

The Broncos and Texans both won a game while scoring only 19 points. The Broncos have what looks to be an excellent defense thus far. The Texans have the best defensive player in the game and most people seem to have respect for their defense overall.

The Steelers won a game scoring only 12 points last Sunday. They did this against a St. Louis team that has a well respected front 7, especially at home, where the contest was played. The Steelers also lost their starting QB during the contest.

Then there is the Phins, who won a game scoring only 17 points, 7 of which were delivered by a punt return TD.

In other words, our LONE VICTORY thus far was thanks to the defense and ST. Yet, the defense is getting killed on FH. Let me be clear that I am not suggesting I think the defense has been acceptable this season. They played poorly the past two weeks. The point is that at least they delivered us a victory. That is much more than can be said of the QB.

The Phins offense is going to have to start delivering 25+ point games if this team is going to win games. It is just not reasonable to expect ANY DEFENSE to keep the opponent to under 20 points every week. Our defense handed one victory to us and gave us a tremendous opportunity for a 2nd win in week 2. The offense just did not capitalize on that opportunity. 20 points does not get it done. I think there were only a couple of wins with 20 points. Only 4 with less than 20. It just is not going to happen often.

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Fins1971 said:
Scoring 12 points - 1 win in 49 games
Scoring 17 points - 2 wins in 49 games (we have one of those 2 wins)
Scoring 19 points - 4 wins in 49 games
Scoring 20 points - 8 wins in 49 games
Scoring 23 points - 10 wins in 49 games
Scoring 24 points - 16 wins in 49 games
Scoring 26 points - 19 wins in 49 games
Scoring 27 points - 25 wins in 49 games. (51%)

Yep in the current NFL you have to score 27 points to have a 50/50 chance at winning the game.
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:lol: Just as I was doing the research, you beat me to it.
 
Nick Folk at the end of the game and Jets win by one.

I kick dirt for two weeks through the bye with no changes to how the Fins do business because the "looked" better in this game.
 
I would almost imagine Philbin the Organizer spent more time thinking about London this week than actually correcting the major flaws from the Bills game. With a decent staff, this is an ugly game but we eke out a W. If staff orchestrates on status quo, this is blowout territory.
 
The next three games all look good for Miami. Miami could easily be 4-2 which could mislead people to the idea that things are fine. Don't say I didn't warn you.
 
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