Needs 1st and goal work.
First Impressions of OC Brian Daboll?
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Hilliard hasn't proven that consistently yet. He got stuffed pretty hard on that Soliai run. The complete unwillingness to use LJ was weird considering Thomas was out. But Johnson is still something of a longshot at this point of his career. I think there is a personnel issue when it comes to short yardage. The answer might not be on this roster.
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I'll also have to mirror some of the other posters. A big upgrade, but there were some calls I scratched my head on. There were moments in the game where I thought they could've been more aggressive. Henne was on fire.. he should've thrown it a few more times. Reggie Bush playing every single offensive play was ridiculous and predictable.
Some execution issues. That fade in the forth on the goaline. I keep saying to myself... if that was Marshall, instead of Hartline... is that a touchdown? I'm not sure if the call was poor as much as the execution was poor. It was definitely there if Henne had just slightly more touch (it has to be a high leap ball anyway).. and having a stronger receiver (Marshall) fight for the ball. Hell I bet Bess catches that.
In what is most impressive is how he's developed Henne over the past 7 months. He's like a different guy. Totally. He ran well. His decision making was very good. He made some very nice throws. And his moxy. He acts like a NFL QB on the field.
Great Job there.
Some execution issues. That fade in the forth on the goaline. I keep saying to myself... if that was Marshall, instead of Hartline... is that a touchdown? I'm not sure if the call was poor as much as the execution was poor. It was definitely there if Henne had just slightly more touch (it has to be a high leap ball anyway).. and having a stronger receiver (Marshall) fight for the ball. Hell I bet Bess catches that.
In what is most impressive is how he's developed Henne over the past 7 months. He's like a different guy. Totally. He ran well. His decision making was very good. He made some very nice throws. And his moxy. He acts like a NFL QB on the field.
Great Job there.
I was wanting to see Larry Johnson in there also. Like I said before, this whole thing around Johnson is strange weirdo. I know he had some off the field issues, forget what they were but wow, the dude was a friggin good running back. Do not remember any outstanding or bad injuries on him either.
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Not many people would've ran through that play to be honest. even with Soliai blocking Soliai got stuffed too, the left side collapsed, and he had no where to run. Perhaps if he kept his head up and bounced it outside it may have had a chance. I would be nice if the offense allows the back to take what is there, instead of just plowing up a hole because that what was called. allows all the players to adjust.
perhaps. but watch the lex goalline play again. solai didnt know what to do. and hes so damn big he just cut off all space for the guy. lex did get it done earlier. how on earth u gonna find out if u dont try??? is a fade to hartline a better choice than turn around and hand the ball to hilliard???? not in a milion years.
larry johnson has proven it. he is the answer as well. maybe hes not a 20 carry back anymore. maybe hes not gonna break any long runs. oh wait maybe he will - since he did it.
this guy has gotten it done. elite backs dont lose that. they just dont. the guys not even that old 31?? how old is ricky? and johnsons got 3 years without any damage to his body.
u cant win if u dont try. we have the answers already on the roster. u have to hand them the ball to get a yard.
and no u polite lovers. yes he got the job done in short yardage but he was terrible blocking, and u dont need a fullback. guys like hilliard and clay are fine. need players that can catch the ball out of the backfield and do a number or different things. need options. flexibility polite brought none of that. he limited this offense and thats why hes gone. one of the things these guys actually got correct. but if u arent willing to give his replacement the ball they are making a mistake.
i dont imagine we will continue to see this gross mismanagement of short yardage. even tho there is carryover from some of the same things we saw with henning. sparano needs to get his head out of his *** and trust some guys to make plays.
if hilliard has a couple plays that he doesnt get it. fine. move on from there. but anythings better than the fade call
good thread btw
A fade to Hartline with BMarsh on the other side is probably my least favorite play in Dolphins history and this is the 2nd year we have to put up with it. Well Hilliard had like a yard on a couple carries. He really hasn't proven anything yet. You're right, we might as well give him a try. That's why he's still on the team. I'll agree there wasn't much there on that goal line carry but it was a try. I'd like to see him prove something. You may not be a fan of Polite's blocking, but there's no question as to his effectiveness in short yardage. Maybe he was limiting the overall execution of the offense (though I don't see it) but that still doesn't excuse not having a better solution for those 3rd and 1's. Maybe it won't seem so big a problem when we're not running up into Wilfork's epic blubber.
Unfortunately, elite backs do just lose it. Usually around 30. Alexander, Portis, Edgerrin, Westbrook etc. Ricky is an exception because he took time off from the sport and I'd say his conditioning is unique. LJ had that nice run in preseason. I wouldn't mind seeing more of him, but only because I think the alternatives are limited. I suspect Sparano was probably rightfully afraid of that patsies interior D. So maybe we'll see more of Hilliard or LJ this week if Thomas isnt 100%.
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Thought he did awesome calling plays. Keep in mind too guys, even the offensive powerhouses have bad play calls every now and then. For example, giving the ball to Ingram at the goal line instead of putting the ball in Brees' hands..
I wish he'd have been here last season, TBH.
I really like his approach and style. The wide-openness of it is really refreshing from the Henning offense of the last few seasons. I didn't like some of the playcalling inside of the RZ, but I'm sure that can be fixed with time.
I really like his approach and style. The wide-openness of it is really refreshing from the Henning offense of the last few seasons. I didn't like some of the playcalling inside of the RZ, but I'm sure that can be fixed with time.
no doubt. and thats why overall daboll isnt being criticized for a couple of those calls. but they were clearly poor calls even if they worked. hes got to do a better job. overall very happy with daboll tho. if the game was a little closer he takes some more heat. the way that game was going tho brady was going to have an answer, we werent going to get a needed stop anyways.
none of those backs u mentioned were elite with the possible exception of edgerrin james, and the tread just came off. but he got his carries in. LJ is a different back i think this guy was truly truly special. i was talking guys like emmitt, marcus allen, guys like that. they dont lose it the way other backs do. still very effective late in their careers. especially marcus allen. the way that guy could just move into a hole. incredible. LJ was not used early in his career. they had priest holmes and didnt know how good LJ was yet (although they should have - because he should have won the heisman in college - he was the best player and im not a penn st fan). LJs career was derailed by off the field troubles and ignorance, not because of injury and not because he wasnt a fantastic running back. hes that good - or he was. i really have a hard time believing he isnt anymore if hes in shape. the guy is only 31. and he had a couple of years with alot of carries. but he has about 5 years in that time where his carries were limited or he had none at all. hes only 31! this guy can still play. at the very least he can still get a yard in short yardage.
we may never find out, cause it seems he will never get the chance. perhaps right now its the fact he hasnt had much time with this offense. sparano does do weird **** sometimes tho. hes kinda goofy with the way he plays guys.
and hes wrong alot when he does this. hes slow to come around. hes slow in his choices. its harder for guys to break through with this dude, and its kinda a problem.
cameron wake is a perfect example. it was pretty clear early on in his first year wake was not getting the playing time he deserved. he was so productive rushing the passer. yet they continued to be reluctant to let him play in passing situations. then look what he did last year. so we were right about the guy.
rashad jones should have seen the field more last year as well, and perhaps he would have been a little better on monday.
when guys show u something, u gotta go back to them. u gotta give them a chance to play. sparano doesnt do this. and they cut guys loose that show potential, and keep guys around that show nothing. thats part of our play-making problem that permeates this roster.
nincovich was a stud in preseason a couple years ago. and hes playing well in new england now. has killed us in 2 matchups now.
anthony armstrong all u ever heard about the guy was all the dbs u kept toasting for big play after big play. now hes a starter in washington for 2 years now. shanahan loves him. says he thinks hes the fastest guy in the league. and that guy makes a ton of plays downfield for washington.
same thing with ginn. how many returns for touchdowns does this guy have to make before u play him??? sparanos first year ginn never even returned kicks. DUMB.
then they cut him basically.
three guys that make BIG PLAYS for OTHER TEAMS. why???? it was clear when they were STILL IN MIAMI...why are they gone???
and left behind a roster that continues not to produce big plays....or needs more of them (yes things were better monday) but can anybody argue all three of these guys couldnt contribute exactly what they are contributing somewhere else now?
and hey i like gates. but if we had armstrong, maybe we dont need to use that pick- maybe we can find a nickel back