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First round Quarterbacks who have failed.

Impressive stats yes, but also consider that of QB's in the later rounds or undrafted, you have a much higher percentage and greater amount. For every Tom Brady or Matt Hasselbeck or Kurt Warner, there's been hundreds of washouts like Josh Heupel for instance. Guys like these can be found out of the league or in the CFL. It all comes down to good scouting, good coaching, and just good circumstances.
 
Skeet84 said:
Well if you actually read before you start commenting you would see that he said NO SUPERSTARS come out of the 1st round. So if we name one we are already right. We are not saying more come out of the 2nd and beyond.
If you would read his post you would see that he did not say "no superstars" come out of rounds beyond number 1. He said the chances of it happening are virtually non-existant. That doesn't mean none, that means the odds are very, very, very low. And if you look at the number of Qb's drafted after the first round vs. the number of them that actually do anything, the poster is right. For every Tom Brady, the are 80 or 90 Josh Heupels. The reason there is so much hype about Brady only having been a 6th rounder is because a 6th round QB actually doing anything of substance is an exceedingly rare occurrence.
 
TAK said:
Bump for Cutleraholics and the like.


This post has nothing to do with "Cutleraholics". You have no idea whether he will be a Ryan Leaf, or a Peyton Manning. Vince Young and Matt Leinart have the same chance of becoming busts as Cutler does. This post just shows your ignorant hate for Cutler. Next time if you hate a player some people like and you want to dissuade people from wanting him, give facts about the player not generic first round bust facts.
 
lol.. Why isn't David Carr on that list? 4 year career, 10624 passing yards, 48 TD's and 53 INT's.

Reason why most QB's have became "busts" is because of the coaching. Any QB in the league can be good with great coaching and alot of disciplined hard work. You can't just expect First Round QB's to enter the NFL and completely change the face of the franchise.

Running Backs from the first round may go to a team in the NFL and continue their great work they had in college, but the QB position is way harder to understand especially when making the transition from College to the Pro's.

As good as you people may think Vince Young is or was in Texas, if he does fall in the draft to a team like the Oakland Raiders, he will become a bust. Their coaching staff is horrendous, he will have nothing to work with. They may have alot of talent, but talent is nothing without good coaching. Just look at the New York Knicks. And please don't say Larry Brown is a good coach because he's always been overrated x 10000000000000.

I expect Kubiak to change David Carr's game in a positive way. David Carr should have a breakout season in 2006.
 
outtawack311 said:
This post has nothing to do with "Cutleraholics". You have no idea whether he will be a Ryan Leaf, or a Peyton Manning. Vince Young and Matt Leinart have the same chance of becoming busts as Cutler does. This post just shows your ignorant hate for Cutler. Next time if you hate a player some people like and you want to dissuade people from wanting him, give facts about the player not generic first round bust facts.

Yeah really, Why not Leinartaholics or Youngaholics?
 
SpeedRush99 said:
Yeah really, Why not Leinartaholics or Youngaholics?
Because everyone when they say we need a QB in the first round they say we need Cutler. I for one think if anyone will be a bust it's most likely Leinart when he goes to the Saints.
 
This is a very good post and it shows how college success for qbs does not translate to the NFL a lot of times. The average round of super bowl winning qbs is the 3rd round, just an interesting tidbit.

P.S. Lienart = next collosal bust
 
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