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Four Dolphins rookies had major roles Sunday -- Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Brian Hartline and Chris Clemons. But what's the deal with Pat White (13 snaps all season) and Patrick Turner (who hasn't played)?

The Dolphins were disappointed by White's erratic accuracy this summer, and though he has gotten better, White said more improvement is needed. Beyond that, the Dolphins say they want to be cautious with White after Chad Pennington's injury.

``I maybe at the beginning of the summer thought I might have a little different use for him, a little more,'' coach Tony Sparano said Monday. ``The reason why his snap count is down is because he is the next quarterback. Our quarterback got sacked six times [Sunday], so you could be the next one really fast if you keep that stuff up. We are picking and choosing closely what we want Pat to do.''

The Dolphins still believe he has a strong upside as a change-of-pace option. In practice, ``he's gotten a lot better. His ball has gotten tighter, there are fewer [overthrows], he's settling down,'' cornerback Nate Jones said.

A Dolphins executive told people that Miami has a high regard for Florida's Tim Tebow. But even if he slid to the Dolphins' first-round slot, it would be surprising if they drafted him after investing second-rounders in Chad Henne and White and trading a fifth-rounder for Tyler Thigpen.

• Several veterans raved about Turner, who stands 6-5, in minicamp. But he lost some of the staff's confidence in training camp because of drops, less-than-precise route-running and trouble separating from defensive backs.

There has been some improvement, but not enough to make the staff believe -- as of last weekend -- that he would be a better option than the other four receivers. Turner, picked 87th overall, hasn't been active in games because there are backups at other positions who are better on special teams.

http://www.miamiherald.com/614/story/1314639.html
 
But what's the deal with Pat White (13 snaps all season) and Patrick Turner (who hasn't played)?

I'm hearing from Sparano that Turner will see some game action soon enough as Turner has looked really good in practices over the last few weeks.

Sparano was talking about that yesterday in his presser.
 
I never liked the patrick turner pick or the pat white john nailbone pick. You could see in college that turner didn't get seperation ...how was that going to translate to the pros ?Pat white at 5-11 a qb...good luck
 
Pat White is an afterthought at this point for me. I cringe when he is out there.

Anyone else happy as hell with these corners? Vontae is a big hitter and Smith has played great as a rook. These two are impressive. Clemons looked good in his first outing. The young S was throwing his body around and very electric. That is what I love to see out of youth in the secondary.
 
A Dolphins executive told people that Miami has a high regard for Florida's Tim Tebow. But even if he slid to the Dolphins' first-round slot, it would be surprising if they drafted him after investing second-rounders in Chad Henne and White and trading a fifth-rounder for Tyler Thigpen.

I am not as high on Tebow being a first round pick, but if we were going to spend that second over again I would rather have Tebow over White due to his size is a lot better in the wildcat or option/spread we have seen when White is in this year. Atleast Tebow would look like a man playing a man's game next to the Linebackers. Not look like a child out there running around.
 
Look, I love Tebow, but we need to use our draft picks to fill our biggest needs, not on experiments and certain formations/packages. I was not happy when White was taken and with where he was taken, and I hate seeing him taking snaps in games that mean something. Sure would have been nice to have had someone who could actually contribute with that pick.
 
we had two second round picks! i used one on a playmaker/ potential guy... The other one we used on a need.. sometimes you have to do that..
 
we had two second round picks! i used one on a playmaker/ potential guy... The other one we used on a need.. sometimes you have to do that..


worst part about that is the fact that we drafted a guy who plays 2 snaps a game before we drafted smith. I on the other hand dont think i would be taking that same gamble. not sure what they were thinking
 
Pat White is an afterthought at this point for me. I cringe when he is out there.

Anyone else happy as hell with these corners? Vontae is a big hitter and Smith has played great as a rook. These two are impressive. Clemons looked good in his first outing. The young S was throwing his body around and very electric. That is what I love to see out of youth in the secondary.

Agree 100%
 
I would love to see Hartline get the ball more...according to the Fin's website he is 1st string now and Ginn has been demoted...I'm excited to see what he brings to the table
 
I never liked the patrick turner pick or the pat white john nailbone pick. You could see in college that turner didn't get seperation ...how was that going to translate to the pros ?Pat white at 5-11 a qb...good luck
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First of all, we better not draft Tebow. I am also so sick and tired of these reporters badmouthing Pat White and Turner. I dont see any other theams draft class playing major rolls in every game. I think we have done pretty good with Smith, Davis, Hartline, and possibly Clemons. Geez, isnt that enough. People also forget in order to get playing time they either have to be better than the competition or get put in early due to an injury. You cant just cut or bench people to put a rookie in just because they were drafted high.
 
First of all, we better not draft Tebow. I am also so sick and tired of these reporters badmouthing Pat White and Turner. I dont see any other theams draft class playing major rolls in every game. I think we have done pretty good with Smith, Davis, Hartline, and possibly Clemons. Geez, isnt that enough. People also forget in order to get playing time they either have to be better than the competition or get put in early due to an injury. You cant just cut or bench people to put a rookie in just because they were drafted high.

I'm still surprised at how quicky Dolfans turned on Pat White- dude's still a rookie with almost no playing time under his belt. Maybe if he didn't overthrow that bomb against the Falcons things would be a bit different now, who knows. Give him a little time, bottom line. This isn't Ginn in year #3, this is a rookie.

As to Tebow, if we didn't draft PW this year I think that Parcells would be very interested in Tebow. I have never, ever in my life seen a prospect as polarizing as Tim Tebow.
 
I'm still surprised at how quicky Dolfans turned on Pat White- dude's still a rookie with almost no playing time under his belt. Maybe if he didn't overthrow that bomb against the Falcons things would be a bit different now, who knows. Give him a little time, bottom line. This isn't Ginn in year #3, this is a rookie.

As to Tebow, if we didn't draft PW this year I think that Parcells would be very interested in Tebow. I have never, ever in my life seen a prospect as polarizing as Tim Tebow.

I agree on both points. People need to give White a break....at least for now. If the overthrow went for a TD, everyone would be in love with him.

Yes, if we didnt have White, Tebow would be interesting but not a #1. Just my opinion.
 
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