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The Dolphins have done virtually everything they can to build a team ready to win now. I didn’t put the Justin Herbert team one spot ahead of the Tua Tagovailoa team to rub the Dolphins’ noses in the fact that they chose Tua one spot ahead of Herbert in the 2020 draft, but it is a reminder of how big a lift an excellent rookie quarterback can provide a team. Tagovailoa had a C-plus rookie year, benched twice late in the season for performance, and it’s no secret that the team’s fate is tied to him. He should be helped by a significant upgrade at receiver, with Will Fuller IV arriving in free agency and ex-Tide mate Jaylen Waddle in the draft. The way football works these days is a quarterback’s window to prove himself is short. Tagovailoa certainly has this season, but how much after that depends on how he functions in a talented offense . . . and, for instance, whether Houston moves Deshaun Watson. It’s crazy all the factors that could come into play, but Tagovailoa can make them all disappear by completing 66 percent of his throws, making magic with his receivers, and throwing for 4,200 yards.
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would Hebert have "lifted" the Dolphins with our stellar receiving core and veteran OL?

if the Bills stood behind Allen for 2 years and then rewarded him will an all-pro alpha WR,
why should we insist that he throw for 4,200 yards to keep him?
 
lbmclean_nocal said:
would Hebert have "lifted" the Dolphins with our stellar receiving core and veteran OL?

if the Bills stood behind Allen for 2 years and then rewarded him will an all-pro alpha WR,
why should we insist that he throw for 4,200 yards to keep him?
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He didn't insist that he has to reach those numbers or he's a bust. Just that they would put all the uncertainty and trade rumors to bed.
 
This really is getting crazy. Tua coming off what many thought might be a career ending injury, playing less than a year later with 3 rookie OLman, on a team that had just went 5-11, during the craziest off season like EVER, and he still gets in and not only plays but leads this 5-11 team to a 6-3 record, and people are wondering if he is good enough?? i mean Mahomes, Brady, Aaron Rodgers and many others couldn't even get on the field their rookie years, WITHOUT an injury, should they have been considered not good enough?


Should we suddenly label him the league MVP?? No he still has to improve, like any other rookie. Hunt needs to improve, Jackson needs huge improvement, as does Iggy. Kindley and even Brandon Jones and Raekwon Davis needs to improve, but out of all of them I got more confidence that Tua will have a huge year 2 jump than I do any of them. It just gets frustrating after awhile.
 
On paper, Tua should have a much better supporting cast than he did last year, so I will withhold judgment until we see how he does this year. As for Herbert, they both may turn out to be good QBs, and that is okay, too. Who won their match-up when they played last year? Tua. To me, that's encouraging. Considering where they were drafted, it was a big game, and even though they were pretty much evenly matched, Tua handled business. It looks like we had a good draft. I am excited to see how our new additions will benefit Tua and our team!
 
For the first time in many decades I trust our front office. While I would have preferred that they address the RB position in the last two drafts it’s obvious that they believe in Gaskins et al. I have a very high expectation for Tua, not because of his physical traits but because he’s a proven winner.
 
It's also laughable to rank a Herbert led Chargers team ahead of a Tua led Dolphins team, when a Tua led Dolphins beat a Herbert led Chargers team straight up.

So yes, that person is trying to rub the Dolphins’ noses in the fact that they chose Tua one spot ahead of Herbert in the 2020 draft. His disclaimer is so freaking laughable.
 
FinaticalOne said:
It's also laughable to rank a Herbert led Chargers team ahead of a Tua led Dolphins team, when a Tua led Dolphins beat a Herbert led Chargers team straight up.

So yes, that person is trying to rub the Dolphins’ noses in the fact that they chose Tua one spot ahead of Herbert in the 2020 draft. His disclaimer is so freaking laughable.
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Usually people rank based on stats. Power rankings etc...really are just people's attempts at throwing **** against a wall to see what sticks.

I take them with a grain of salt.
 
FinaticalOne said:
It's also laughable to rank a Herbert led Chargers team ahead of a Tua led Dolphins team, when a Tua led Dolphins beat a Herbert led Chargers team straight up.

So yes, that person is trying to rub the Dolphins’ noses in the fact that they chose Tua one spot ahead of Herbert in the 2020 draft. His disclaimer is so freaking laughable.
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But Herbert was so prolific and outstanding he got his team to 7 wins.

Give me that every year from my qb.......not.
 
andyahs said:
But Herbert was so prolific and outstanding he got his team to 7 wins.

Give me that every year from my qb.......not.
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Wins is a team stat.

Now, I wouldn't trade TT for Herbert straight up, but wins isn't a valid measure in this case, IMO.


I think you are misreading what i have said.

I'm not bashing Tua at all. I'm just saying one has nothing to do with the other.
 
Well you have Tua coming off a major injury with no OTA's or regular off-season program and you have a front office that clearly had a plan to sit him in Q1 of the season. I am not making excuses for the kid but those are pretty good ones if you ask me.

Let's see how Tua does with the starting QB nod squarely in the fold and a whole healthy pre-season to prepare.
 
NY8123 said:
Well you have Tua coming off a major injury with no OTA's or regular off-season program and you have a front office that clearly had a plan to sit him in Q1 of the season. I am not making excuses for the kid but those are pretty good ones if you ask me.

Let's see how Tua does with the starting QB nod squarely in the fold and a whole healthy pre-season to prepare.
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Every sports fan, reporter and casual fan knows about his injury / injuries history.
No need for people to spew this over and over about every negative (in some minds) article that comes out.
 
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