For all the Henne Haters, Doubters, and Boo Birds

[flynryan15]

I don't know your resume, but I assume you haven't been coaching in the NFL nor working as General Manager at any pro-team.

So I'll start by saying that franchise QB don't grow in trees and teams are conducted with a master plan based in goals.

It's clear you think Chad Henne has no talent and is an unworthy player. Well everyone inside Dolphins Front Office saw the same poor execution during several games of 2010, but unlike you, they see a diamond in the rough in Henne. They assumed that he deserves a final chance (in his contract year) but this team can't bet everything on the same horse, so Chad Henne must be challenged. But here's the problem, aside of stats, Chad's talent is above several passers in this league, so the quest for a franchise QB to compete with Henne isn't like buying soda at Wallmart.

Unlike 2008, Dolphins got the 15th selection not the first. So they have to wait and saw a rush on most teams to get overvalued QB, so four potential passers were picked. Then our front office saw poor value on selecting a passer in this draft because none of them will be ready this season. Our actual approach is to compete now not in 2013, when Kaepernick and Mallet could be ready.

Then unless you think that you can get any player without following the rules, Carlson Palmer is unavailable. As most experts, Ireland projected that Palmer's situation could be solved by the end of NFL lockout, but Bengals are firm on letting Carlson to retire before trading him.

Or perhaps you assume Vince Young is a franchise passer that might lead us to playoff, let me remember you this guy left the field on a game day and was very close to suicide. VY requires a ton of medical attention in order to recover.

If you figured that McNabb, Hassellbeck or Kolb could be option for us, then you haven't played QB under serious coaching. Those guys were developed under WCO systems. Translation: They don't fit in Daboll's system.

So the list of potential challengers gets reduced to Kyle Orton, Matt Moore & Marc Bulger.

Marc Bulger looked promising after Baltimore press wrote about his great job as backup of Flacco. But he appears to be at the end of his NFL career and it's unlikely he could win over Henne.

Matt Moore is known by Sparano since their days in Dallas, but is more of a project to challenge Henne if things doesn't work by mid-season.

Kyle Orton is the full package. Has great stats, experience, leadership, and he could beat Henne or become the best backup of the league.
Anyway, assuming Henne fails, Orton could help to mentor a new franchise passer.

But both Broncos and Orton wanted too much to trade.
Broncos started asking a 2nd round arguing Orton's their starting QB, while Miami offers a 4th in 2012 plus conditional pick on 2013.
Kyle Orton wants something close to his current paycheck of $9 million/season with multi-year contract. Again Dolphins assumed Henne could beat him, so paying such money for a backup makes no sense and could lead to severe salary cap issues on 2012.

Henne is not a diamond in the rough he is a turd in the punch bowl!

 

[phinsfan84]

So he hasn't lived up to what we wanted but i want to see how this year goes with our new OC. If not save up our picks and try to move up a get a top QB in the draft next year. Win or lose i'm a dolphins fan either way. Fan since 78

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[JCane]

Hey I know JCane let's just give our first rd pick and get this over with right - what a joke - let's replace average with average you were the guy who "STAGED" the booing the first time the D got a leg up and got an INT. Immmature and infantile

Show me where I said trade the first round pick for average.

Then go find where I actually DID SAY that I wasn't in favor of handing over a second round pick for AVERAGE Kyle Orton who IS indeed and UPGRADE over Chad Henne. I am willing to deal a fourth or fifth round pick for Orton. That's it. Nothing more.

And I have NO IDEA what you speak of when you say "staged the booing the first time" or whatever.

Don't try to put words in my mouth...I'm ****ing eating.

 

[mnphinfan]

Show me where I said trade the first round pick for average.

Then go find where I actually DID SAY that I wasn't in favor of handing over a second round pick for AVERAGE Kyle Orton who IS indeed and UPGRADE over Chad Henne. I am willing to deal a fourth or fifth round pick for Orton. That's it. Nothing more.

And I have NO IDEA what you speak of when you say "staged the booing the first time" or whatever.

Don't try to put words in my mouth...I'm ****ing eating.

So let me get this straight you are mad at the front office for not acquiring Orton but don't want them to meet the Bronco's price of a 2nd round pick in 2012 and another pick in 2013. How the **** does that work. They offered a 4th round pick and the Broncos turned it down. How is it this FO's fault for not overpaying for an average QB? Which you just wrote you would be unhappy with.

As far as booing Henne in the first full padded practice it's bush league. It's your right to do it but it's pretty ****ing immature. Henne more than like isn't this teams savior but it's the FO that deserves the criticism not him.

 

[JCane]

So let me get this straight you are mad at the front office for not acquiring Orton but don't want them to meet the Bronco's price of a 2nd round pick in 2012 and another pick in 2013. How the **** does that work. They offered a 4th pick and the Broncos turned it down. How is it this FO's fault for not overpaying for an average QB? Which you just wrote you would be unhappy with.

As far as booing Henne in the first full padded practice it's bush league. It's your right to do it but it's pretty ****ing immature.

You said "let me get this straight" and then you didn't get it straight...

:idk:

 

[Tedgraves]

you henne bashers are so ridiculous.. Orton Seriously Orton.. the guy is a joke.. Denver Fans are wanting him gone..

 

[jfleag61]

Fans have had enough, man. Time to move forward.

We aren't winning anything with Henne at QB. Look around the league. Stud QB's are doing work in the playoffs and Super Bowls.

Need to rally behind the team; not players.

Get us a legit QB.

Who wants to win football games?

AGREED...now let me go down to the local WAL MART ad pick me up a legit QB or 2. God knows they are laying around all over the place.

 

[JCane]

AGREED...now let me go down to the local WAL MART ad pick me up a legit QB or 2. God knows they are laying around all over the place.

Yes, because I clearly stated that the league was full of available QB's of the stud caliber and the front office was just sitting around with their thumbs up their buttholes.

GMAFB

 

[jfleag61]

Yes, because I clearly stated that the league was full of available QB's of the stud caliber and the front office was just sitting around with their thumbs up their buttholes.

GMAFB

Hasselbeck is injury prone, Kolb is an unproven, "system" QB (the likes of witch we got from the eagles and failed before) that the cards paid WAY too much for, McNabbs best years are behind him, etc, etc,. Face it, the "pool" of QB's this year was just a bunch of "stop gaps" anyway.

 

[JCane]

Hasselbeck is injury prone, Kolb is an unproven, "system" QB (the likes of witch we got from the eagles and failed before) that the cards paid WAY too much for, McNabbs best years are behind him, etc, etc,. Face it, the "pool" of QB's this year was just a bunch of "stop gaps" anyway.

Face it?!

ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?!

Have you read ANYTHING that I've posted in this thread?!

No **** the "pool" is nothing but stop-gap QB's.

Am I being trolled?

 

[AllFinsAllDay]

I think its dumb to waste your time to go to a practice to boo someone, but people are idiots. I think they should close the practice from now on to be honest that way the IDIOTS who did this realize that it's thier fault.

 

[RockyMtnPhinfan]

you henne bashers are so ridiculous.. Orton Seriously Orton.. the guy is a joke.. Denver Fans are wanting him gone..

Here let me reverse this and it will be much more accurate


you Orton bashers are so ridiculous..Henne seriously? Henne?..the guy is a JOKE. Miami fans are wanting him gone


Booing someone is not immature. You can be the most mature person in the world and still enjoy voicing your opinion to your team and coaches- and where else can you have your voice heard? We are the middle class, we pay INFLATED prices to watch these millionaires screw up our team. So for one, i believe, if they don't get it even close to right GIVE THEM HELL! Who gives a flying ratz azz about their fragile egos. It's the pros- there will be pressure. If you can't stand the heat go the the CFL or the Arena league.

 

[dolphinfan41]

IMO a stop gap QB, or a rookie, would still be better than Henne this season. I wold much rather have a QB that can manage the game or at least has some promise, than a bust of a QB throw costly interceptions and overthrow recievers.

 

[JCane]

I think its dumb to waste your time to go to a practice to boo someone, but people are idiots. I think they should close the practice from now on to be honest that way the IDIOTS who did this realize that it's thier fault.

Makes sense to me.

Alienate the fans that do bother showing up to practices and games at No Life Stadium.

Business 101 indeed.

 

[flynryan15]

Yes, because I clearly stated that the league was full of available QB's of the stud caliber and the front office was just sitting around with their thumbs up their buttholes.

GMAFB

Well you got the thumb and butthole part right!