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Take a deep breath....

okay, now, take off your irrational hats, take a step back, look at the situation

breathe again

okay, now for thinking logically (novel thought in fandom I know, but you can do it, I believe in you!)

A) Jake Long, aka, our best offensive lineman, aka arguably the best offensive lineman in the game, aka the best player at the most important position on the offensive line is not in.

When you have a player who can take away the best pass rushers in the game by himself, that does wonders for the rest of your line's pass pro.
When you have a player who can demolish the whole side of a defensive line, that does wonders for your running game.

Judging our offensive line without Jake Long in, is like judging the Orlando Magic without Dwight Howard. Man they suck on defense when he's not in, but then when you get the best shot blocker and defender in the game on the court it makes everyone else look better because they have less responsibility once he's taking care of business.

B) I know they looked terrible against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers D-Line, but let's examine this Tampa Bay has used first round choices on Gerald McCoy (last year's 3) Adrian Clayborn, and then stole supremely talented, but injury plagued d end D'quan Bowers.
HINT: Their D-Line is pretty good, and we aren't the only team that will have trouble blocking them this year.

What was very encouraging was that despite having the run taken away, we were able to have some success offensively. Our previous offensive coordinator Danosauraus "Rex Offenses" Henning, would've kept pounding, and ran max protect pass plays with two button hook routes. We attacked the vulnerabilities of the Tampa 2 defense, which is the middle of the field. The pass to Fasano was a thing of beauty. And when Tampa saw that they were vulerable there they switched to a cover 1 leaving Marshall 1 on 1 on the outside, then we scored a touchdown. That was a clinical way of breaking down coverages.

C) Where was all this our offensive line sucks talk when Reggie was running rampant last week???

Summary:
Yea, our O-line isn't perfect, we need the right side figured out, but I believe we have the pieces in place, and believe that it will be figured out by the seasons start. More importantly when Jake is back in, everyone will look better.

So take a chill pill, stop trying to be the first person on the forum who predicted that our team is going to suck and why. Because nobody wants to hear it. Think rationally, and support your team. If you knew what you were talking about you would be working in a front office/ or coaching staff, and not in the stands watching a game and not being able to process what you're seeing on the field (I'm looking at you dmarino110).

I was extremely encouraged by what I've seen so far this preseason, and can't wait to shock the world on September 12th! :D
 
Take a deep breath....

okay, now, take off your irrational hats, take a step back, look at the situation

breathe again

okay, now for thinking logically (novel thought in fandom I know, but you can do it, I believe in you!)

A) Jake Long, aka, our best offensive lineman, aka arguably the best offensive lineman in the game, aka the best player at the most important position on the offensive line is not in.

When you have a player who can take away the best pass rushers in the game by himself, that does wonders for the rest of your line's pass pro.
When you have a player who can demolish the whole side of a defensive line, that does wonders for your running game.

Judging our offensive line without Jake Long in, is like judging the Orlando Magic without Dwight Howard. Man they suck on defense when he's not in, but then when you get the best shot blocker and defender in the game on the court it makes everyone else look better because they have less responsibility once he's taking care of business.

B) I know they looked terrible against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers D-Line, but let's examine this Tampa Bay has used first round choices on Gerald McCoy (last year's 3) Adrian Clayborn, and then stole supremely talented, but injury plagued d end D'quan Bowers.
HINT: Their D-Line is pretty good, and we aren't the only team that will have trouble blocking them this year.

What was very encouraging was that despite having the run taken away, we were able to have some success offensively. Our previous offensive coordinator Danosauraus "Rex Offenses" Henning, would've kept pounding, and ran max protect pass plays with two button hook routes. We attacked the vulnerabilities of the Tampa 2 defense, which is the middle of the field. The pass to Fasano was a thing of beauty. And when Tampa saw that they were vulerable there they switched to a cover 1 leaving Marshall 1 on 1 on the outside, then we scored a touchdown. That was a clinical way of breaking down coverages.

C) Where was all this our offensive line sucks talk when Reggie was running rampant last week???

Summary:
Yea, our O-line isn't perfect, we need the right side figured out, but I believe we have the pieces in place, and believe that it will be figured out by the seasons start. More importantly when Jake is back in, everyone will look better.

So take a chill pill, stop trying to be the first person on the forum who predicted that our team is going to suck and why. Because nobody wants to hear it. Think rationally, and support your team. If you knew what you were talking about you would be working in a front office/ or coaching staff, and not in the stands watching a game and not being able to process what you're seeing on the field (I'm looking at you dmarino110).

I was extremely encouraged by what I've seen so far this preseason, and can't wait to shock the world on September 12th! :D

We kicked the crap out of the Panthers incredibly crappy d line, it was nice but put against a top d line this week the right side couldn't hanadle the athletes TB had. We need to fix that somehow.
 
Tampa does have a good DL and so do the Pats and Jets. Going 0-4 against those two teams probably kills any chance of a division title. Plus now that Henne MAY be coming around, the last thing we need is for him to regress as the season progresses because he cant trust his OL to give him time. Given the draft picks and free agent money we've spent on the OL, it's inexcusable that it's in this state.
 
A. You're putting too much faith in Long. As good as he is, he's one man. He can't take care of five positions.

B. They looked bad against Atlanta as well.

C. I along with others posted that Carolina is a bad team right now, (in Pouncey threads).

This FO has been tweaking this O-Line for 4 years and it's still garbage. Three number 1's and it's the worst unit by far on this team. That's not irrational, that's reality.
 
D. We play a lot of teams with good Dlines and yes Long is a stud, but last time a checked the team picture runs past Columbo and Carey on a regular basis! It is a cause for concern! Belicheat is going to overload that side and our backfield is going to game big hits! It needs fixed yesterday they are ****ing flaming dumpster no excuses! They are going to get someone hurt!
 
A) In no way can you compare Dwight Howard's impact on the Orlando Magic, A team that has 5 STARTERS, to Jake Longs impact in a true team sport that boast 22 starters overall and eleven at any given time.

In the NBA a superstar can affect the outcome of a game and season wayyyy more than in the NFL.

B) While Jake Long Will certainly help by locking down many teams best pass rusher on the blind side. But dont think for a second that teams will not be able to rotate the pressure to come from the other side when we prove to not be able to block anything that side. While Jake is the best LT in the league, he can not "demolish the whole side of a defensive line" by himself. In the NFL even the best OLINEMAN can only block one DLINEMAN. PERIOD!

Having said that. . .

1)Will Long coming back help?

ABSOLUTELY It will allow us to free up help responsibilities from incognito to pouncey and even Carey as well we will be able to have one less back or TE in max protect thus an additional skill player on the field.

2) Are we overreacting with our WORRIES about the oline?

NO AT ALL. This is still a dire situation with very little "good solutions". The offensive line seems doomed to be a weak point of the team again this season. Its unfortunate because it seems like it ,may be the ONLYY weak point this year. SMH
 
Long back does help the right side of the line, as Pouncey can slide to help the right side

Yea, the pats D-line is good, the Jets D-Line is AVERAGE at best, and not to mention, they only use 3 man fronts, which our offensive line is more equipped to handle.

Our line is full of bigger, slower, mauler types. Which helps when you're playing against the type of lineman that are in 3 man fronts, but doesn't work as well against, faster more athletic d-lines such as Tampas
 
A) In no way can you compare Dwight Howard's impact on the Orlando Magic, A team that has 5 STARTERS, to Jake Longs impact in a true team sport that boast 22 starters overall and eleven at any given time.

In the NBA a superstar can affect the outcome of a game and season wayyyy more than in the NFL.

B) While Jake Long Will certainly help by locking down many teams best pass rusher on the blind side. But dont think for a second that teams will not be able to rotate the pressure to come from the other side when we prove to not be able to block anything that side. While Jake is the best LT in the league, he can not "demolish the whole side of a defensive line" by himself. In the NFL even the best OLINEMAN can only block one DLINEMAN. PERIOD!

Having said that. . .

1)Will Long coming back help?

ABSOLUTELY It will allow us to free up help responsibilities from incognito to pouncey and even Carey as well we will be able to have one less back or TE in max protect thus an additional skill player on the field.

2) Are we overreacting with our WORRIES about the oline?

NO AT ALL. This is still a dire situation with very little "good solutions". The offensive line seems doomed to be a weak point of the team again this season. Its unfortunate because it seems like it ,may be the ONLYY weak point this year. SMH

I was comparing an O-Line, to playing Defense in basketball; which it is very comparable to, it's 5 men working in concert to protect the rim rather than the QB/ RB; same idea
 
I appreciate your faith in our players and staff but the right side of our oline is hot garbage. The OL need changes...fast.
 
how is jake coming back gonna fix 3 other eye sore positions??? explain that one to me...we're awful on the right side and we got a statue playing left guard...is jake gonna pull for incog also when he returns??? how's he gonna make the right side better??? yeah you can give the right tackle help in pass pro etc but you've still got a right side who creates no push in the run game and a right guard who is gonna get destroyed by high end quickness and lateral ability...

take a deep breath you say...more like hold your breath and pass out before you have to see whats in our future if we don't change some things up NOW
 
Long back does help the right side of the line, as Pouncey can slide to help the right side

Yea, the pats D-line is good, the Jets D-Line is AVERAGE at best, and not to mention, they only use 3 man fronts, which our offensive line is more equipped to handle.

Our line is full of bigger, slower, mauler types. Which helps when you're playing against the type of lineman that are in 3 man fronts, but doesn't work as well against, faster more athletic d-lines such as Tampas

You shift Pouncey and you expose a big hole called Incogfatslownito! Buffalos dline is going to be much improved, you can bet your life Rex will overload that side of the line with LBs and CB/S blitzes, Houston has a pretty fast athletic.Dline to. Enough excuses! The bottomline is our QB is getting Tee'd off on in the preseason and those hits only get more intense during the regular season!
 
3 man fronts rush more then 3 lineman as a matter of fact they are utilizing a three man front because their best pass rusher is more athletic then these 4 man athletic front DEs.
 
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