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of which I am NOT one...

First off Miami must win out and then win a tiebreaker in the inevitable event of a tie for the last wildcard….which with almost total probability will be a multiple team tiebreaker.

The first thing that must be understood that if the Dolphins win out that they will win the tiebreaker with the Jets. It will go down to the 5th tiebreaker which is strength of victory…which is defined by the NFL as follows:

Definition: A part of the NFL's tiebreaking procedure, strength of victory is figured by calculating the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten. Since the Jets and Dolphins have BOTH beat: Tennessee, Buffalo, each other, Detroit, New England and Minnesota then the “other†victories come into play. The Jets “other†victories are against; Houston, Green Bay, and Oakland The Dolphins “other†victories are/will be against Chicago, Indy, and KC …Jets cannot overcome this.

The other division tiebreakers used to eliminate one of the teams from the same division stand as follows and is the first elimination in multiple team tie breakers:
Chiefs/Broncos: Chiefs would hold the tiebreaker because one of their wins left on their schedule would be a division win versus either Oakland or SD. So there is a strong possibility of the Chiefs being the team from this division in a multiple team tiebreaker.
Jags/Titans: Tennessee would win this tiebreaker with 2 more division victories than Jax. So there is a strong possibility that Tennessee would be this divisions tiebreaker representative in a multiple team tiebreaker…IF…BIG IF Jax loses to Tennessee and either NE or KC.
Steelers/Bengals: Cincinnati has already won this based on division record so the only way in for the Steelers if for Cincinnati to lose out, and the world to turn on its ear. So for the rest of this we will not include the Steelers.

So the tiebreaker would come down to come down to the following combinations of two team tie breakers (three team with Jets also, since Jets would be eliminated).

Dolphins/Chiefs….Dolphins win
Dolphins/Jags…Jags win.
Dolphins/Steelers…Steelers win.
Dolphins/Titans….Dolphins win.
Dolphins/Broncos … Broncos win (Dolphins cannot make up 4 games down in Conference record).
Dolphins/Bengals…Bengals win if tied because they will have won one more AFC game remaining on their schedule and Dolphins cannot make that up.


Now the fun part…assuming that one of the 5 loss teams is the first wild card 3 team tiebreakers apply…looking at the division tiebreaker which is used to eliminate one team if the wildcards are from the same division…so then we can look at the other possibilities:

Assuming Bengals get first WC:
Jets/Dolphins and any other team are same as above.
Dolphins/Chiefs/Jags…Miami wins based on being 1 game up in the conference and Jax’s 2 additional losses will be conference games.
Dolphins/Chiefs/Titans.. Dolphins win based on sweep.
Dolphins/Broncos/Jags.. Broncos win this based on AFC record.
Dolphins/Broncos/Titans…Broncos win this based on AFC record.

Assuming Jags get WC 1.
Dolphins/Chiefs/Bengals…Chiefs eliminated due to losses versus Bengals and Dolphins but Bengals get last WC based on AFC record.
Dolphins/Chiefs/Titans…Dolphins win.
Dolphins/Broncos/Bengals…Broncos-Bengals winner in week 16 goes.
Dolphins/Broncos/Titans…Broncos go based on AFC record.
Dolphins/Titans/Bengals..Bengals go based on AFC record.

For the REAL fun…4 team tiebreakers….
Dolphins/Bengals/Chiefs/Jags…Bengals and Dolphins go. Based on AFC records.
Dolphins/Bengals/Chiefs/Titans….Bengals and Dolphins go (based on Cincy’s AFC record and Miami’s sweep.
Dolphins/Bengals/Broncos/Jags… Cincy and Denver go based on AFC record.
Dolphins/Bengals/Broncos/Titans… Cincy and Denver go based on AFC record.

When REALLY looking at the playoff possibilities it is not as impossible as it seems at first glance. What the true believers must hope for is the Dolphins win out and a KC loss to San Diego, and two KC wins versus Oakland and Jax, a Titans win against Jax, and a Denver loss (Cincy????) in any of their 3 remaining games It is far fetched but really simple….
 
my 2 cents said:
of which I am NOT one...

First off Miami must win out and then win a tiebreaker in the inevitable event of a tie for the last wildcard….which with almost total probability will be a multiple team tiebreaker.

The first thing that must be understood that if the Dolphins win out that they will win the tiebreaker with the Jets. It will go down to the 5th tiebreaker which is strength of victory…which is defined by the NFL as follows:

Definition: A part of the NFL's tiebreaking procedure, strength of victory is figured by calculating the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team has beaten. Since the Jets and Dolphins have BOTH beat: Tennessee, Buffalo, each other, Detroit, New England and Minnesota then the “other†victories come into play. The Jets “other†victories are against; Houston, Green Bay, and Oakland The Dolphins “other†victories are/will be against Chicago, Indy, and KC …Jets cannot overcome this.

The other division tiebreakers used to eliminate one of the teams from the same division stand as follows and is the first elimination in multiple team tie breakers:
Chiefs/Broncos: Chiefs would hold the tiebreaker because one of their wins left on their schedule would be a division win versus either Oakland or SD. So there is a strong possibility of the Chiefs being the team from this division in a multiple team tiebreaker.
Jags/Titans: Tennessee would win this tiebreaker with 2 more division victories than Jax. So there is a strong possibility that Tennessee would be this divisions tiebreaker representative in a multiple team tiebreaker…IF…BIG IF Jax loses to Tennessee and either NE or KC.
Steelers/Bengals: Cincinnati has already won this based on division record so the only way in for the Steelers if for Cincinnati to lose out, and the world to turn on its ear. So for the rest of this we will not include the Steelers.

So the tiebreaker would come down to come down to the following combinations of two team tie breakers (three team with Jets also, since Jets would be eliminated).

Dolphins/Chiefs….Dolphins win
Dolphins/Jags…Jags win.
Dolphins/Steelers…Steelers win.
Dolphins/Titans….Dolphins win.
Dolphins/Broncos … Broncos win (Dolphins cannot make up 4 games down in Conference record).
Dolphins/Bengals…Bengals win if tied because they will have won one more AFC game remaining on their schedule and Dolphins cannot make that up.


Now the fun part…assuming that one of the 5 loss teams is the first wild card 3 team tiebreakers apply…looking at the division tiebreaker which is used to eliminate one team if the wildcards are from the same division…so then we can look at the other possibilities:

Assuming Bengals get first WC:
Jets/Dolphins and any other team are same as above.
Dolphins/Chiefs/Jags…Miami wins based on being 1 game up in the conference and Jax’s 2 additional losses will be conference games.
Dolphins/Chiefs/Titans.. Dolphins win based on sweep.
Dolphins/Broncos/Jags.. Broncos win this based on AFC record.
Dolphins/Broncos/Titans…Broncos win this based on AFC record.

Assuming Jags get WC 1.
Dolphins/Chiefs/Bengals…Chiefs eliminated due to losses versus Bengals and Dolphins but Bengals get last WC based on AFC record.
Dolphins/Chiefs/Titans…Dolphins win.
Dolphins/Broncos/Bengals…Broncos-Bengals winner in week 16 goes.
Dolphins/Broncos/Titans…Broncos go based on AFC record.
Dolphins/Titans/Bengals..Bengals go based on AFC record.

For the REAL fun…4 team tiebreakers….
Dolphins/Bengals/Chiefs/Jags…Bengals and Dolphins go. Based on AFC records.
Dolphins/Bengals/Chiefs/Titans….Bengals and Dolphins go (based on Cincy’s AFC record and Miami’s sweep.
Dolphins/Bengals/Broncos/Jags… Cincy and Denver go based on AFC record.
Dolphins/Bengals/Broncos/Titans… Cincy and Denver go based on AFC record.

When REALLY looking at the playoff possibilities it is not as impossible as it seems at first glance. What the true believers must hope for is the Dolphins win out and a KC loss to San Diego, and two KC wins versus Oakland and Jax, a Titans win against Jax, and a Denver loss (Cincy????) in any of their 3 remaining games It is far fetched but really simple….

Also...Jax does not have to lose to Tenneessee for us to go...just lose 2 of 3...KC and NE are their other games. In this case we need KC and Denver to tie also...then we win tiebreaker also....KC to lose 1 (not JAX) and cincy to beat Denver.
 
my 2 cents said:
Also...Jax does not have to lose to Tenneessee for us to go...just lose 2 of 3...KC and NE are their other games. In this case we need KC and Denver to tie also...then we win tiebreaker also....KC to lose 1 (not JAX) and cincy to beat Denver.
Jax needs to lose all 3 as they have us in the tie-breaker.
 
Jax have to lose..Your tie-breaker scenarios won't work..

the Jaguars HAVE TO LOSE ALL 3 REMAINING GAMES..

Which is likely..The way the Titans are playing..I can see Young having a monstrous game at HOME..

They play the Pats' at home..But this is where Brady & their crew knows business is business..they will take care of business..(btw..this should be the only game that we chear for the ***s)..

and finally..@ KC..I can mos def see KC win this game..Plus we need them to win..

In all reality..the Chiefs will lose @ the Chargers dis week..so all our playoff aspirations comes down to us winning out and the Jax to have a possible but unlikely "MENTAL BREAKDOWN"

:D
 
So are you saying we have about a 50/50 chance of making the playoffs at this point...:D
 
no jax needs to lose 2 of 3 and have tenn win out...yea rite
 
RenoFinFan said:
So are you saying we have about a 50/50 chance of making the playoffs at this point...:D
No the answer is Slim and None and Slim just left town......:lol: :lol:
 
rainmaker1313 said:
No the answer is Slim and None and Slim just left town......:lol: :lol:
Sounds like this is all Slim's fault right now...I hate that guy for leaving town on this team like that. We should of got rid of him in the offseason.
 
my 2 cents said:
For the REAL fun…4 team tiebreakers….
Dolphins/Bengals/Chiefs/Jags…Bengals and Dolphins go. Based on AFC records.


i actually kinda like this one, we need to win out, have the cheifs win two more, have the bengals loose two and the jags loose two. Yeah its far out there but i like it.
 
very interesting read...Id look at i myself but i have to jump in the shower...But someone should post the remaining scheduel for all the teams left in contention...
 
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FinsAreLife said:
i actually kinda like this one, we need to win out, have the cheifs win two more, have the bengals loose two and the jags loose two. Yeah its far out there but i like it.

Yeah, that's my favorite suggestion too. I think it vindicates this team more to win in a FOUR way tie-break.
 
As I mentioned in a thread yesterday, the Jags don't need to lose out. If they lose 2 of 3 (one being to the Titans) they tie the Titans at 9-7 and are eliminated from the wild card by the Titans having a better division record. Doesn't matter if they beat us head-to-head doesnt apply yet. Of course we have to win out and titans win out and jags lose another game and denver lose 2 more and KC not win all 3.
 
Guys!!

All that monbo jumbo is bull!!, come on!!, that would happen, only if a lot of team loss a couple of game to euro leage teams!!, we are just done, but it was fun while it last!!, I will kept seen in the game, but wihtout any presure. So enjoy on how we suck the propellers out of playoff with us.GO DOLPHINS!!:mad: :dolphins:

Ps. by the way! the panties are no longer in the hunt for bye week:D
 
nice research... it all looks so confusin but not THAT crazy to buy into...
im hoping titans whoop up on the jags sunday and jags go into a frenzy , pats beat em, then they go to arrowhead stadium last game of the stadium where ONLY ONE TEAM has beat them in arrowhead in december in the LAST 10 YEARS! that says a lot, plus the fact that the jags are not a good team on the road... BUT even if they win one of the two games (they really need to lose to the titans), if the titans win out , we get in over both the titans and jags.. siick to dream of.. and oh yea, we can always resort to the bengals losin three straight to get us in -tough schedule... @ indy on mon nite, @ denver, and finally vs. pitt (pitt is FINALLY startin to play better football)
and finally, okay so we dont hold the key to our playoff fate BUT we at least hold the fate of finishing SECOND in the afc east this year if we win out... we will get the tie breaker over the jets if we win out.. thats pretty nuts to me, seeing as a couple months ago we were 1-6 , literally ranked last in the nfl
 
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