For the Wildcat formation, Chad Pennington should get off the field

[normaldude]

Currently, for the Wildcat formation, Chad Pennington moves over to the WR position.

I think it makes sense for him to take a few extra steps, and get off the field.

And at the same time, a backup tight end can come off the sideline, and take his WR position.

That eliminates the risk that opposing teams go after Pennington.

And it improves the blocking and receiving power on the field.

What do you think?

 

[Avalanche of Wins]

Currently, for the Wildcat formation, Chad Pennington moves over to the WR position.

I think it makes sense for him to take a few extra steps, and get off the field.

And at the same time, a backup tight end can come off the sideline, and take his WR position.

That eliminates the risk that opposing teams go after Pennington.

And it improves the blocking and receiving power on the field.

What do you think?

i was thinking the same thing actually though its a dead give away at that point

 

[lbmclean_sj]

I am sure teams would have done this before if it didn't violate the substitution rules

 

[normaldude]

I am sure teams would have done this before if it didn't violate the substitution rules

Well, it does involve some extra training for the backup TE who steps on the field as Pennington steps off.. since he didn't have the benefit of being in the huddle.

So it does add a layer of complexity to the Wildcat formation. Ronnie Brown might have to throw the ball to a player who wasn't even in the huddle.

 

[lbmclean_sj]

Well, it does involve some extra training for the backup TE who steps on the field as Pennington steps off.. since he didn't have the benefit of being in the huddle.

So it does add a layer of complexity to the Wildcat formation. Ronnie Brown might have to throw the ball to a player who wasn't even in the huddle.

you cant substitute after the huddle is broken

 

[Dr. Phin]

You got to keep him out there in order to force a man to cover him...The object is to spread the defense. Whether he is the QB or not...he is a decoy....or maybe he may catch something someday....

 

[hemidemon]

Well, it does involve some extra training for the backup TE who steps on the field as Pennington steps off.. since he didn't have the benefit of being in the huddle.

So it does add a layer of complexity to the Wildcat formation. Ronnie Brown might have to throw the ball to a player who wasn't even in the huddle.

That is an illeagal substitution. We will get flagged everytime.:shakeno:

 

[nikeair498]

Uh that gives a throwing threat to the formation.. which we will most likely see.

 

[normaldude]

you cant substitute after the huddle is broken

Hmm.. I've seen situations where NFL players are rushing to get off the field to avoid the "12 men on the field" violation. Like if the player gets out of bounds before the snap, they're ok. But if he doesn't, they get hit with the "12 men on the field" penalty.

Anyway, if it's an illegal substitution, then obviously scratch this thread.

 

[Locke]

Absolutely not. Read CK's write-up on the Wild Cat formation and you'll understand why. Having Pennington on the field is part of the confusion. From the opposing team's view, it looks like we are sending out a passing formation. Thats why its brilliant. They send more defensive backs out, giving us a severe mismatch in the run-blocking scheme. If Pennington doesn't come out at all, its a dead give-away what formation we are running. You should read CK's post stickied at the top for a better explanation, he did a superb job......

 

[lbmclean_sj]

Hmm.. I've seen situations where NFL players are rushing to get off the field to avoid the "12 men on the field" violation. Like if the player gets out of bounds before the snap, they're ok. But if he doesn't, they get hit with the "12 men on the field" penalty.

Anyway, if it's an illegal substitution, then obviously scratch this thread.

I think the defense is given some slack(they get the last substitution), if the 12th guy running off is an offensive player then that would/should be considered illegal. you definitely can't send 12 guys on on offense and then take a guy off at the last second.

 

[Canadianfishfan]

You can be sure that they are going to run a reverse to pennington where he throws it down field, or passes it to him in the flat where he passes it downfield. There are just so many options.

 

[theFreak41]

Part of the greatness of the wildcat formation against New England was that it caused so much confusion. Pennington's presence made sure they didn't have a clue until we lined up. It's better for us to have them not knowing it's coming until the last minute. It makes us bigger because they're essentially forced to play smaller. Taking Chad out all but eliminates that advantage, unless of course Ronnie can burn the defense with a long bomb...

 

[arsenal]

a defense looks at what personnel grouping an offense brings into their huddle so they can match it...

so when an defense sees 4 WRs, they know they need more DBs, etc...

if they saw in our huddle no quarterback, they would KNOW that formation is coming, and they can focus more on run stopping than worrying about the passing game...

if Penny is in the Huddle they do not know if we are coming out with a regular formation, or the Wildcat, so it helps add to the defenses confusion... they have to play it like a standard formation of 2 RBs, 2 WRs and a TE

 

[Kubix]

Thread is over. Cant substitute players after huddle is broken, and taking Chad out before the huddle is a dead giveaway.