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BennySwella

BennySwella

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Holy crap, has this been a roller coaster of a season. We saw Flores go from untouchable, to hot seat candidate, to obvious keeper. From a liability, to a defensive play calling strength. This team has evolved and it is one of the reasons I like Flores. He has adapted every year and has fought through adversity each time. We are a mountain away from the playoffs, but just to be in it at this point, as in potentially playing for something is incredible. This season for me has gone from one of the worst ever, to one of the best ever, whether we make the playoffs or not.

I would personally like to see Chris Grier gone but I also think he gets another chance. That said he needs to fix the o-line somehow.
 
BennySwella said:
Holy crap, has this been a roller coaster of a season. We saw Flores go from untouchable, to hot seat candidate, to obvious keeper. From a liability, to a defensive play calling strength. This team has evolved and it is one of the reasons I like Flores. He has adapted every year and has fought through adversity each time. We are a mountain away from the playoffs, but just to be in it at this point, as in potentially playing for something is incredible. This season for me has gone from one of the worst ever, to one of the best ever, whether we make the playoffs or not.

I would personally like to see Chris Grier gone but I also think he gets another chance. That said he needs to fix the o-line somehow.
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Agree. Nice post. :cheers:
 
CANDolphan said:
Not sure how Flores is getting a huge pass while Grier has to go. Makes zero sense.
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Isn’t Grier in charge of personnel decisions? I can’t remember. I honestly think they were counting on the OL being much better than they were, banking on a stronger running game, and when Tua got hurt that spiraled things out of control.
The one pass Flores should not get is why the defense was so bad the first half of the season. To me, the jury is still out on him. I have mixed feeling about Grier. He’s had a lot of hits and a lot of misses. Probably like most GMs to be honest.
 
I can forgive the first 8 games. We lost our starting QB and knew that the offensive line was going to take time. Still have no idea what happened with the defense.

I have yet to forgive the bull$hit around all the Watson circus and how it undermined the entire team and the investment in our 1st round draft choice QB. Does not matter what Herbert, Allen or anyone else was doing. Did we not scout Tua heavily for 1 year and then make our decision? Have faith in your choice and do everything possible to make it work. A foolish owners public flirting is pathetic.
 
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Isn’t Grier in charge of personnel decisions? I can’t remember. I honestly think they were counting on the OL being much better than they were, banking on a stronger running game, and when Tua got hurt that spiraled things out of control.
The one pass Flores should not get is why the defense was so bad the first half of the season. To me, the jury is still out on him. I have mixed feeling about Grier. He’s had a lot of hits and a lot of misses. Probably like most GMs to be honest.
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I was expecting the line to be improved at the beginning of the season.
 
While I somewhat agree and honestly want to keep Flo, he really really can’t have another early season meltdown again. He needs to re-evaluate some of his choices. We should be on top of the division. We have the talent . Somethings are out of his control but a lot is still in his control. If they do this early season **** again I don’t see how we can keep him.
 
CANDolphan said:
Not sure how Flores is getting a huge pass while Grier has to go. Makes zero sense.
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With the way the 2021 draft has gone and with Tua's development, Grier's job should be safe.

Definitely would like to see more success in free agency, though.
 
We can feel how we want about Flo and Grier, but there is no way Ross is firing either of them, they'll get at least 1 more season.
 
the signing of jacoby brissett as our QB2 (i don't fault grier, i thought he was a good signing as well), combined with Jesse Davis "Ole" whiff that led to AJ Epenesa free shot at Tua's ribs (putting him out for 3 games) effectively killed the first half of the season.
 
claytonduper said:
I can forgive the first 8 games. We lost our starting QB and knew that the offensive line was going to take time. Still have no idea what happened with the defense.

I have yet to forgive the bull$hit around all the Watson circus and how it undermined the entire team and the investment in our 1st round draft choice QB. Does not matter what Herbert, Allen or anyone else was doing. Did we not scout Tua heavily for 1 year and then make our decision? Have faith in your choice and do everything possible to make it work. A foolish owners public flirting is pathetic.
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Where is the public flirting from Ross? Nothing but unsourced reports that I've seen. Meanwhile we have other reports, from Peter king for instance saying Ross did not request a push for Watson. I'm not buying he'd be pushing for a sex offender to be the face of the franchise without something more substantial to go on.
 
CANDolphan said:
Not sure how Flores is getting a huge pass while Grier has to go. Makes zero sense.
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Because I think Flores is doing more with less. I feel we would be even better with a good gm. A GM that knows how to construct an oline or one smart enough to have drafted Jonathan Taylor instead of Noah Igbonoghene.
 
BennySwella said:
Because I think Flores is doing more with less. I feel we would be even better with a good gm. A GM that knows how to construct an oline or one smart enough to have drafted Jonathan Taylor instead of Noah Igbonoghene.
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Understood your point of view, I disagree on who is to blame. how do you explain why we have cut / waived better OL who have performed better than our current?

I think we have a fundamental disagreememt of what the process is with these guys. Flores releases better OL for… reasons? Not to mention Flores has had his OL regress, hard, which is a sign of poor coaching.

Flores needed to be told to switch his defense around By the players.

I’m sorry but no, Flores has to go before anyone. Our roster has a lot of talent - more talent than we’ve seen from our results, and we typically start slow under Flores each and every year.
 
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