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Former Ram, Dolphin- Lawrence Phillips found dead

He was a killer and he deserved to answer for that. Your actions are yours and you have to own them at the end of the day regardless.

That said, I think it takes a pretty myopic person to look at a guy who used to literally get pissed on by the guy banging his crackhead mom and not feel a tinge of empathy for the fact that he never really had all that much of a chance of being normal. Dude wasnt fit for society, but when you read about his upbringing its very easy to see how he got so ****ed in the head. Makes me appreciate how I grew up and my parents for sure.

Agree with this for sure....Makes one feel absolutely blessed to have two loving parents and to be brought up in a family full of compassion/morals/support like this guy was obviously denied....I for one am sad that his obvious talents were never allowed to nourish and develop like normal people like you and me!

Pity people are soo easy to judge when they really don't know all the facts and go on assumptions
 
He was a killer and he deserved to answer for that. Your actions are yours and you have to own them at the end of the day regardless. That said, I think it takes a pretty myopic person to look at a guy who used to literally get pissed on by the guy banging his crackhead mom and not feel a tinge of empathy for the fact that he never really had all that much of a chance of being normal. Dude wasnt fit for society, but when you read about his upbringing its very easy to see how he got so ****ed in the head. Makes me appreciate how I grew up and my parents for sure.
Don't make excuses for anyone and their crap upbringing...when you have someone murdered in your family...you really don't give a **** about their "bad childhood"...so, yes...we the survivors of murder victims have pretty "myopic" views of murders...
 
Don't make excuses for anyone and their crap upbringing...when you have someone murdered in your family...you really don't give a **** about their "bad childhood"...so, yes...we the survivors of murder victims have pretty "myopic" views of murders...

Not much is really black and white. Did he deserve to be in prison? Absolutely. He wasnt fit to be among the free population. That doesnt mean I cant understand how someones lot in life can put them in a place where they really dont have much of a chance to act like you and I.

In the end, we reap what we sow. I cant and dont need to justify his crimes. But I can understand how he got there. Well actually, I cant even understand, but I can empathize. Just like I can empathize, but not understand, how you feel having lived through murder. I guess we all have our opinions and Ill respect yours, but thats JMO on Phillips.
 
Sorry to hear it.But I think we knew something like this would happen.Still amazes me that people that talented rather they are athletes/musicians or what ever end up like that.May he RIP.
 
Agree with this for sure....Makes one feel absolutely blessed to have two loving parents and to be brought up in a family full of compassion/morals/support like this guy was obviously denied....I for one am sad that his obvious talents were never allowed to nourish and develop like normal people like you and me!

Pity people are soo easy to judge when they really don't know all the facts and go on assumptions
Don't give me that. There are alot of people that grow up in as bad a situation or worse and are not blessed with the physical ability he had. Instead of using that God given talent for good, he killed someone. He was a bad human being plain and simple. He deserves no sympathy or mercy. Stop making excuses for bad behavior. The burden of his choices rest on his shoulders and his alone.

This guy made one bad decision after another. The guy was a thug. When he did not have football to cover up his character flaws, the chickens came home to roost:

On August 21, 2005, Phillips was arrested for assault after allegedly driving a car into three teenagers, following a dispute with the teens during a pick-up football game in Los Angeles, California. At the time of the arrest, Phillips was also wanted by the San Diego Police Department in connection with two alleged domestic-abuse incidents involving a former girlfriend,[1] who claimed that Phillips had choked her to the point of unconsciousness. In addition, the Los Angeles Police Department was seeking Phillips in connection with another allegation of domestic abuse that had occurred in Los Angeles. In March 2006, Phillips was ordered to stand trial on charges of felony assault with a deadly weapon stemming from the August 21, 2005, incident. On October 10, 2006, he was found guilty of seven counts. On October 3, 2008, he was sentenced to 10 years in a California state prison.[citation needed]

While serving that sentence, Philips was convicted in August 2009 for the assault on his former girlfriend Amaliya Weisler [22]on seven counts, including assault with great bodily injury, false imprisonment, making a criminal threat, and auto theft.[23] On December 18, 2009, Phillips was sentenced to 25 years in prison on the 2009 convictions, to run consecutive to the 2008 sentence (which was reduced to just under 7 years), for a term of 32 years.[1][24]

Phillips was admitted to the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation on October 16, 2008 and was incarcerated at Kern Valley State Prison.[25] Under California law, since his crimes harmed other persons, Phillips was required to serve at least 85 percent of his sentence before being eligible for time off.
Alleged murder and death

On April 12, 2015, Phillips' cellmate Damion Soward,[26] the cousin of former USC Trojan and NFL wide receiver R. Jay Soward, was found dead in the cell the two men shared. Soward, who was serving a sentence of 82-to-life for a murder conviction,[27] was choked to death, and Phillips was regarded as the prime suspect in the case.

On September 1, 2015, Phillips was charged with first-degree murder in connection with Soward's death.[28] On November 9, 2015, the prosecutor was granted a motion to reconsider whether to seek the death penalty.[29] Philips was awaiting trial and in segregated custody at Kern Valley State Prison when he was found unresponsive in his cell by prison guards around midnight on January 12, 2016, and pronounced dead at 1:30 AM, in what is suspected as a suicide. The day before Phillips died, a judge had ruled that there was enough evidence to bind Phillips over for trial in the murder of Soward.[30][31]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Phillips
 
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Don't give me that. There are alot of people that grow up in as bad a situation or worse and are not blessed with the physical ability he had. Instead of using that God given talent for good, he killed someone. He was a bad human being plain and simple. He deserves no sympathy or mercy. Stop making excuses for bad behavior. The burden of his choices rest on his shoulders and his alone.

You're right to a point. Some people do make their way out of a horrible upbringing, but others don't. Not every person can deal with adversity successfully. If he had a decent upbringing, he might have turned out differently. But you are correct in saying that he has only himself to blame for his actions. Say what you will, Lawrence Phillips' life a very sad story of a wasted human life.
 
Don't give me that. There are alot of people that grow up in as bad a situation or worse and are not blessed with the physical ability he had. Instead of using that God given talent for good, he killed someone. He was a bad human being plain and simple. He deserves no sympathy or mercy. Stop making excuses for bad behavior. The burden of his choices rest on his shoulders and his alone.

Not my intention to offend you or anyone else for that matter if that is what i've done?...my point is that this is a horrible waste of talent and life of EVERYONE this effects...ultimately he will have to answer for his actions...Not making excuses just trying to give a little perspective...again...my appologies if i've offended
 
Not my intention to offend you or anyone else for that matter if that is what i've done?...my point is that this is a horrible waste of talent and life of EVERYONE this effects...ultimately he will have to answer for his actions...Not making excuses just trying to give a little perspective...again...my appologies if i've offended

No offense taken. I absolutely believe any individual needs to answer for what they do. But I also think its naive to think I'd be the same person I am now if I grew up getting pissed on, literally.
 
Not a shock at all. He was facing a life sentence with no parole for homicide. The guy always lived on the edge and was a violent person. He was never going to change.
 
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