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Fox Sport's Rosenberg compares Jake Long's pay w/ Jason Peters and the draft.

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But this week, the Philadelphia Eagles signed newly acquired Jason Peters to a six-year, $60 million contract, with $25 million guaranteed.
Peters and Long play the same position, left tackle. Peters is a 27-year-old Pro Bowler. Long, when he signed his contract, was on the verge of turning 23 and had never played a game in the NFL.
What had Long done to earn more money than Peters? Absolutely nothing.
This is why nobody wants the No. 1 pick. Teams would rather draft 15th than first. They don't want to guarantee $30 million to a guy who has never played pro ball. But player agents have done such a masterful job of inflating rookie salaries that the teams at the top have very little choice but to suck it up and overpay.
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It is apparent to him that Jake Long was not worth the money we gave up for him, and as well as the draft pick that we invested on Long. There are a few things that you expected from a draft pick this high, and one of those things is simply performance, durability, and improvement over time. Our investment went to the pro bowl, got the respect from the league, and was durable for all of his games. As a matter of fact, he gave up almost 10 less sacks than Jason Peters gave up all year long; moreover, one should wonder why Peters even got that extravagant amount of money.

Source: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...on-has-turned-top-pick-into-a-curse-?MSNHPHMA


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I think you could say the same thing about any prospect drafted in the first 10 picks. They get paid big money for never playing a game. This article should be directed at rookies in general, not singling out Jake Long.

But if you had to make the argument, Peters gave up double digit sacks last year, while Long gave up 3.
 
Jake Long wasn't worth the money we signed him for at the time, no player who's never played an NFL game is worth that kind of money. Thats why the contracts that top 5-10 picks get now a days is a complete joke. However Long proved he was a dominant player for us, and really sured up one of our key weaknesses and turned us back into a winner. So i'd say thus far he's earning his money.
 
Fact of the matter is, for all of the talk about how "teams would rather pick #15 than #1" you don't see any team out there with the #1 overall pick offering it up for the #15 overall pick straight up with no compensation. They all want a package of high picks as compensation for moving down.

Which makes those statements about wanting to pick #15 instead of #1 disingenuous at best, flat out stupid at worst.
 
Yeah this isn't really a knock on Jake or how he may or may not pan out, it's really a shot at all #1 overall picks (or picks 1-5 really), which historically are a huge gamble due to the outrageous amount of money they command as compared to say the 32nd overall pick.
 
I really don't understand why Jake Long always gets used as an example for this argument. It's not like he's the first #1 pick to get signed to a big contract. It's just the ecenomic realities of the game. I hear the players bitching about it...Well, guess what tough guy, put your money where your mouth is and demand your union institute a rookie salary cap! Of course the NFLPA will never do that, so, the point is moot.

Peters got paid too. He was in the Pro Bowl but he in no way deserved it. Even most Bills fans say so. Free agents also can make big bucks, even though they don't deserve them and get overpayed.

Just life in a free market system. Think it's bad now? Wait and see if we hit an uncapped year. Salaries will be astronomical.

Oh..And Jake Long earned his money. He's among the best OLTs in the NFL right now and, I only see upside for him. Sometimes you hit...Comtimes you miss. Look at Houston right now..Everyone was dogging them for not taking Bush, but, WIlliams has turned out pretty good for them. You never know.
 
Its saying at the time Long got his money he didn't deserve it and thats true.

What was left out was that a year later, Jake Long is worth the money and Jason Peters is not.
 
Jake Long was worth every penny we paid him. Its not often you get a franchise left tackle of his caliber. In five years, Jake Long is going to command a hell of a lot of money, and i hope we can keep him.
 
The Ghost said:
Its saying at the time Long got his money he didn't deserve it and thats true.

What was left out was that a year later, Jake Long is worth the money and Jason Peters is not.
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My question is why is it always Jake that gets singled out for an example? No #1 Draft pick deserves the money in terms of NFL production. Not a single one, but, I've never heard the media and other players harp on it like they did about Long's contract.

My assertation would be that the rookies DO deserve it, because their value, rightly or wrongly, is based on a "futures" type value system. Within the context of the salary rules that the owners and the NFLPA have negotiated, the #1 pick not only deserves the money, but, is entitled to it.
 
you should see how many bills fans are glad Peters is gone.. IMO, with no bias, Long is the better of the two and Peters isnt worth the money and picks Philly gave up for him. The Bills took Philly for a ride. I guess the question now is, can Peters be as productive as tra thomas was? I dont think so. Demarcus Ware is going to light him up
 
ckparrothead said:
Fact of the matter is, for all of the talk about how "teams would rather pick #15 than #1" you don't see any team out there with the #1 overall pick offering it up for the #15 overall pick straight up with no compensation. They all want a package of high picks as compensation for moving down.

Which makes those statements about wanting to pick #15 instead of #1 disingenuous at best, flat out stupid at worst.
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Totally agree!! I keep hearing how every team in the top 10 wants to trade out but can't. Well sure they can - just lower what you are asking for the pick. I'm sure any team drafting in the 20's would love to grab a top 10 pick talent wise but why give up half your draft to move up.

I laugh at the write ups saying Philly robbed Buffalo on the Peters trade. JP was all about money. Any player who lets his pay be affected to that degree because he is only making 3+M/yr is a waste. 11.5 sacks let up -that is ridiculous! 10M/yr for that lazy bum - is absolutely crazy!
 
GoonBoss said:
My question is why is it always Jake that gets singled out for an example? No #1 Draft pick deserves the money in terms of NFL production. Not a single one, but, I've never heard the media and other players harp on it like they did about Long's contract.

My assertation would be that the rookies DO deserve it, because their value, rightly or wrongly, is based on a "futures" type value system. Within the context of the salary rules that the owners and the NFLPA have negotiated, the #1 pick not only deserves the money, but, is entitled to it.
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Jake is the highest paid offensive lineman in the NFL. His contract is the standard by which all LT's contracts will be judged until someone else makes more than him.

Its the baggage that comes with all that money. You don't get to live in a vacuum, you need to be up front showing that your worth ever penny. Luckily Jake is so its not a concern of ours.

What I would be concerned about is giving Peters that money. He regressed miserably last year.
 
The Ghost said:
Jake is the highest paid offensive lineman in the NFL. His contract is the standard by which all LT's contracts will be judged until someone else makes more than him.

Its the baggage that comes with all that money. You don't get to live in a vacuum, you need to be up front showing that your worth ever penny. Luckily Jake is so its not a concern of ours.

What I would be concerned about is giving Peters that money. He regressed miserably last year.
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You certainly didn't say anything wrong there. It's all correct, but it's not Jakes fault, and, guys that come into the NFL as the #1 pick routinely become among the highest paid players in the NFL. All of a sudden it's a big deal because it's Jake Long.

As you said, he proved he was worth the money, so, that's all he can so.
 
GoonBoss said:
You certainly didn't say anything wrong there. It's all correct, but it's not Jakes fault, and, guys that come into the NFL as the #1 pick routinely become among the highest paid players in the NFL. All of a sudden it's a big deal because it's Jake Long.

As you said, he proved he was worth the money, so, that's all he can so.
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Exactly, which is why I don't care. :crazy:

But its not just money, rookie LT's will be judged by the standards set by Joe Thomas and Jake Long on and off the field.
 
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