Free Agents we should get Financially sound - why the number one pick must be a QB

[Phinsdude]

Players like Smiley,Bryant Johnson,Calvin Pace, Eu Wilson, Antuan Odom, Justin Smith (Might be a little pricey) are all players that might be able to be had at a better price then the Samuels of the world. If we dump 10 mill per into one corner, well what does that say for the 3,4,5 other DB's used in a game. One player does not make a defense.

Secondly, though some might demand this be in the draft thread it is more of an overview with the financial part of the pick. If we draft a DE or DT, we are making that unproven player the highest paid D-Lineman in the league. Dwight Freeney got the highest defensive bonus last year at 30 million. Peppers is rumored to be demanding a 30 million bonus. Why do you pay a player who never played a down 35 million bonus. QB is the only position where the bonus and money over time works. Its just my opinion, but no player is a sure thing, and the bonus money is a killer.

 

[X-Pacolypse]

You had me at picking up financially sound free agents, but you lost me at saying the number one overall pick should be a quarterback.

 

[Deof Movestofca]

If we draft a DE or DT, we are making that unproven player the highest paid D-Lineman in the league.

And how would that be any worse than making an unproven player one of the highest paid QBs in the league?

Why do you pay a player who never played a down 35 million bonus.

Which is what the 'Phins would be paying any player, regardless of position.

QB is the only position where the bonus and money over time works.

You draft PLAYERS, not POSITIONS. I'd rather have a player at a different position that's not a bust than a QB who is. (I'm not saying that Ryan will be, just that this is a poor argument to take a QB first overall.)

Its just my opinion, but no player is a sure thing, and the bonus money is a killer.

It's not going to be any less killer with a QB.

 

[Gadsden86]

I would love to get Bryant Johnson he is a good Wr and would fit nicely. Bit not sure he would be a #1 which is the same issue we have had for a long time.

 

[Roman529]

If Dan Marino was in the draft then YES, I would pay him $35 million, but since Dan is not around, and there is no consensus franchise QB, you are basically taking a big gamble. Matt Ryan could be the second coming of RYAN.....Ryan Leaf.

Jake Long or Chris Long make more sense.

 

[Dfan06]

Plz no MAtt Ryan have you seen this guy play. He plays also for the whole game then people are judging him on his 4 minutes comebacks he put up. Brian Brohm is way better.

Chris Long is the way to go and Jake long isn't because there are a lot of talented Tackles that will be available in the second Round.

 

[Phinsdude]

Matt Ryan is put where he is for a reason. He is not the next coming of Ryan Leaf. Matt Ryan may be great, or he may stink, we don't know. If we do pass, we better get Brohm or Flacco with #32.

 

[Stringer Bell]

hopefully henne is around at 32

and wouldn't you want to avoid giving $35mil to a QB, when that position is the least likely to succeed in the NFL?

If you are talking about hedging your investment, Chris Long has the lowest bust-potential of the prospects being discussed

 

[dajman87]

Johnson and Pace seem like good pickups to me. We need another starting wideout to complement Ginn, Hagan is terrible. Pace would be good if we decided to deal away JT, and even if we didnt, we could just move him to MLB to complement Crowder (a JT-Pace-Crowder-Porter LB corps wouldnt be too bad).

 

[Shouright]

The thing about "it must be a QB" has some merit IMO.

Theoretically, if you're gonna have a great QB, you're gonna have to pay him great money. Other positions you can get for less.

Might as well spend the #1 pick and all that money on a position you'll be paying great money to anyway.

Now that's not to say I want a QB #1, but the theory makes sense if you look at it economically IMO.

 

[Aqua4Ever04]

If Dan Marino was in the draft then YES, I would pay him $35 million, but since Dan is not around, and there is no consensus franchise QB, you are basically taking a big gamble. Matt Ryan could be the second coming of RYAN.....Ryan Leaf.

Jake Long or Chris Long make more sense.

Hell, Jay Fiedler isn't even in this draft. If we take Matt Ryan, I give up.

(Well not really, I'll always be a Dolphins fan, it will just really tick me off.)

 

[Aqua4Ever04]

hopefully henne is around at 32

and wouldn't you want to avoid giving $35mil to a QB, when that position is the least likely to succeed in the NFL?

If you are talking about hedging your investment, Chris Long has the lowest bust-potential of the prospects being discussed

Very good point. Let's say no matter who we took number 1 was an average player. An average quarterback will put a damper on our chances each year, if we had an average DE, it wouldn't hurt us as bad. Besides, Matt Ryan isn't even in the top 10 of best players in this draft.

If the Dolphins stay at #1 I can assure you with 99% certainty that Chris Long is the pick. .5% goes to Jake Long and .5% goes to Vernon Gholston.

Chris Long is who I want, but I won't kill myself if we take Jake Long or Gholston. If we take Ryan or McFadde, fit me for a straight jacket and check me into an institution.

 

[slickj102]

Matt Ryan is put where he is for a reason. He is not the next coming of Ryan Leaf. Matt Ryan may be great, or he may stink, we don't know. If we do pass, we better get Brohm or Flacco with #32.

And the reason issssssssssss $$$$. Did everyone already forget Brady Quinn from last year. The guy currently has more commercials than completions in the league and the only successful drive he lead was a Subway parade. :shakeno: Matt Ryan - DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE :hi5:

 

[adamprez2003]

Players like Smiley,Bryant Johnson,Calvin Pace, Eu Wilson, Antuan Odom, Justin Smith (Might be a little pricey) are all players that might be able to be had at a better price then the Samuels of the world. If we dump 10 mill per into one corner, well what does that say for the 3,4,5 other DB's used in a game. One player does not make a defense.

Secondly, though some might demand this be in the draft thread it is more of an overview with the financial part of the pick. If we draft a DE or DT, we are making that unproven player the highest paid D-Lineman in the league. Dwight Freeney got the highest defensive bonus last year at 30 million. Peppers is rumored to be demanding a 30 million bonus. Why do you pay a player who never played a down 35 million bonus. QB is the only position where the bonus and money over time works. Its just my opinion, but no player is a sure thing, and the bonus money is a killer.

Ah you're thinking like a GM. Dont do that around fan boards. Still nice to read someone who understands the financial realities of modern football. :up:

 

[LarryFinFan]

Players like Smiley,Bryant Johnson,Calvin Pace, Eu Wilson, Antuan Odom, Justin Smith (Might be a little pricey) are all players that might be able to be had at a better price then the Samuels of the world. If we dump 10 mill per into one corner, well what does that say for the 3,4,5 other DB's used in a game. One player does not make a defense.

Secondly, though some might demand this be in the draft thread it is more of an overview with the financial part of the pick. If we draft a DE or DT, we are making that unproven player the highest paid D-Lineman in the league. Dwight Freeney got the highest defensive bonus last year at 30 million. Peppers is rumored to be demanding a 30 million bonus. Why do you pay a player who never played a down 35 million bonus. QB is the only position where the bonus and money over time works. Its just my opinion, but no player is a sure thing, and the bonus money is a killer.

I agree some of those guys could be good pickups, but I didn't think Justin Smith was still available. Your point is well taken about the DL, but that is the way the system is set up. IMHO, any #1-15 overall is paid out of whack the way the NFL system is now. It's pretty obvious that most scouts believe that Ryan is not an elite level QB (albeit the best of the bunch this year), so picking a QB that is not at that level makes even less sense than picking a CLong, JLong, Dorsey, McFadden or even Gholsten since those guys are at the elite level available in this draft...