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Friction or Mutiny in the locker room?

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Anybody else think something is going on between the coaching staff and players?
What I mean is..I know our talent is severely lacking...but good God!!! You would just
about have to try to be as bad as we have looked. Has Gase already lost the locker room
and the players have said "Screw It!!"
I just have a hard time believing that any professional sports team could be this bad
without the players having check out for the season.
I'm just trying to rationalize any reason for the crapfest that we've seen this year.
 
So 53 players.... Let's name who is doing their jobs and who is not??? I can count 48 players not doing their jobs outside of the Punter, Suh, Jones and Landry
 
I certainly think so. Gase has done nothing to earn or deserve the players respect.

Found this interesting from Cameron Wake after Yesterday's debacle.

“I can assure you I’m frustrated, guys are disappointed and frankly, pissed off,” Wake said. “Uncomfortable with this feeling. Because with the kind of guys we have, this should not be happening.”
 
Namor said:
Anybody else think something is going on between the coaching staff and players? What I mean is..I know our talent is severely lacking...but good God!!! You would just about have to try to be as bad as we have looked. Has Gase already lost the locker room and the players have said "Screw It!!" I just have a hard time believing that any professional sports team could be this bad without the players having check out for the season. I'm just trying to rationalize any reason for the crapfest that we've seen this year.
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In my time here, I get the impression most played organized football at some level(s). For those who were on losing teams, it seems there were alway 2-4 players who everyone else thought was costing the team victories. Yes, in Miami's case that's about 44 out of 46, but that mindset is there. No one can deny that. After a few games, that mindset can turn cancerous. Locker room fights, comments by "unnamed players," some players dropping to half-effort. I fully expect friction, if it wasn't already brewing. Gase SOUNDED like he got it when he benched Maxwell. Apparently, that was a delusion. No apparent consequence for dead ball fouls. No benching of the unnamed RDE who can't set an edge with a paint brush. Gase needs to respond some way or the friction will grow. My suggestion . . . "gentlemen, the coaches have been reviewing the season and have concluded VJ and I are the central culprits in this embarrassment. Poor game-planning, bad schemes, bad evaluation. You will see change THIS WEEK. In return, let's all commit to playing the best football we can."
 
I mean ...talk about undisciplined ...our punter...punter!!!!!...got flagged for a stupid unnecessary roughness penalty...
 
Namor said:
I mean ...talk about undisciplined ...our punter...punter!!!!!...got flagged for a stupid unnecessary roughness penalty...
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As crazy as it may sound, the Punter has been a bright spot for this team.
 
I don't think there is mutiny talk YET but another game or two with absolutely no chance at victory and this team is squarely there.

To be honest, I seriously think the team is more apt to turn on Tannehill than Gase or Joseph. We have seen the obvious signs of dislike between this team is its coach-coddled QB. Right now Tannehill couldn't be playing worse and we are seeing the defense on the field for 75% of the game as a result.

Gase said Tannehill is his QB for the season and I think that was partially to get in front of the protests of his own players. Mark my words a few more games like this and Gase will be putting Moore in to avoid the hate of the players redirecting on him.
 
The players are not good or a good fit, lets not blame the coaching staff or the players, blame the FO....its time to put pressure on this organization to blow it up and start over beginning at the top with Tannenbaum.....nothing else matters if he is allowed to continue to make all personal decisions
 
I don't know the number of penalties our ST's have had during Rizzi's tenure, relative to the league average. I just feel like we have had a ton of hidden yardage lost because of bozo plays from the ST's.

Fundamentals, playing smart, etc., can be ingrained as a primary emphasis. Just focus on having guys playing sound, and there would have to be a difference. I am sure Rizzi would say, AT, don't you think I am doing that?

I would say, obviously not in a way that it is ingrained. You may be teaching it, but not as a way of life, so to speak.
 
I think we have too many soft players. How many on this roster smile or laugh after a big mistake? J. Cameron smiles like someone is tickling his pits after dropping TD passes. Maxwell smiles after either whiffing on a play or getting blocked into the club seats by a WR on a screen play. Our damn kicker brags about not missing a kick in OTA's when asked about his horrible shank at Seattle...Tannehill can't even pretend to act hard. Maybe once or twice a game he gets all pumped up after a big play, but other than that he looks like a 6 year old looking for his lost puppy in the woods. Parker may be the softest player on the roster - injured by a stiff wind and has a ball ripped out of his hands yesterday by a defender who wanted it more. Yes, it was a bad pass - No, it shouldn't have resulted in an INT. Stills spends a lot more time on his knees than during the anthem, I assure you. I mean other than Landry, just compare the toughness of someone like J. Edelman to literally anyone on our offense. These guys are soft - they're sissies, let's please call it what it is. It is going to take a LONG time to turn this mess around. ZERO care or accountability going on within the roster.
 
Our starting offense outside of Jarvis Landry and Ajayi running hard yesterday pretty much stunk up the field. Our defense, good God where do we start? Mario Williams is slow and washed up at DE. Brandh and Jason Jones are just average guys who can't set the edge at all. Jordan Phillips can't do jack squat next to Suh. All teams have to do is double team Suh and our D-line is neutralized. Our linebackers are a hot mess. Jenkins, Misi, Paysinger etc are just mediocre guys who are out of position too often. Alonso is nothing special at MLB. At CB, Maxwell is a complete joke and needs to be cut. Lippett is still a project and gets beat too often. Abdul-Quddus is up and down way too inconsistant. Reshad is the ONLY thing we have in the secondary. This explains why our team is a dumpster fire.
 
BenchFiedler said:
So 53 players.... Let's name who is doing their jobs and who is not??? I can count 48 players not doing their jobs outside of the Punter, Suh, Jones and Landry
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Dang, we got some mathematicians on the site today lol. You named 4 players...53-4=49. You missed one some where. Oh and the Punters name is Darr.
 
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