Friday Buzz: Pouncey starting right guard for much of practice

[gafin]

### Knowshon Moreno said today that trying to carry the ball with a brace on his dislocated elbow "hasn't worked that well," but he wouldn't rule out playing Sunday.
### A Dolphins player said Mike Pouncey again lined up as the first-team right guard for much of practice, with Samson Satele at center. That would be the best way to get Miami's five best linemen on the field, but Satele was still limited somewhat by a fibula injury, which makes the decision more complicated.
### One criticism from some players (but not Cam Wake) about Dolphins defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle is that he occasionally puts Wake in pass coverage.
So how has Wake done in coverage? Since Coyle became coordinator in 2012, Wake has been targeted 11 times in pass coverage, with seven of those completed for 54 yards and two touchdowns.
Wake said he doesn’t mind: “I love it. I’m elite at everything I do. Nothing is a challenge to me.”
How disciplined is Wake? He said he ate one pastry in Paris this offseason – the first non-fruit desert he consumed in many years.
### Defensive end Dion Jordan, who had been receiving treatment for a substance abuse problem in California, has returned to South Florida and is doing well and in good spirits, a teammate said. He will return from suspension on Oct. 20.
### Whereas the Vikings are paying Adrian Peterson (facing felony child abuse charges) while on suspension, the Dolphins aren’t payingDerrick Shelby, who was charged with resisting arrest (a misdemeanor), while he serves his team-imposed suspension, a decision which seems rather punitive and arbitrary considered the case hasn't been adjudicated.
One teammate questioned that, adding it’s easy to banish a role player and that the team needs a set policy on arrests to remove any perception about key players being treated differently from
others.Joe Philbin said the Dolphins have no arrest policy and that he instead prefers to take it case by case.

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[Ruckus45]

Wake should never be in coverage. Should be a simple decision.

 

[trojanma]

I wouldnt be surprised if the Moreno thing is simply a decoy and he doesnt play at all.

 

[CANDolphan]

Really troubling they are withholding funds from Shelby before any due process.

 

[LDaniel7]

Really troubling they are withholding funds from Shelby before any due process.

It's a lot easier to give back pay than it is to recoup money given.

Shelby was a fool. He deserves every penny he loses.

There's a time to bow up and be a man. There's a time bowing up means you're a wannabe-man and a fool.

Shelby sold the team out -- wasn't even a case of hangers-on laying for him. He created the whole mess and then decided to make himself a victim, refusing to leave and videotaping the police for merely doing their job.

At 2:30 a.m.

Fool. I have no respect for this. It risks the DL rotation in our biggest game of the season.

I've defended lots of players in here -- strongly so. I refuse to defend this.

Stone cold idiot.

Risked team success w. his little personal battle -- groping the non-groupies and then acting entitled. And risked his own health. Chances are he was mildly concussed w. his face looking like that.

No sympathy.

LD

 

[Spesh]

Whereas the Vikings are paying Adrian Peterson (facing felony child abuse charges) while on suspension, the Dolphins aren’t payingDerrick Shelby, who was charged with resisting arrest (a misdemeanor), while he serves his team-imposed suspension, a decision which seems rather punitive and arbitrary considered the case hasn't been adjudicated.
One teammate questioned that, adding it’s easy to banish a role player and that the team needs a set policy on arrests to remove any perception about key players being treated differently from
others.Joe Philbin said the Dolphins have no arrest policy and that he instead prefers to take it case by case.

Yet another example of inconsistent treatment for players to seethe over. Especially after Richie sexual assaulted a woman and kept playing.

Philbin will vehemently defend a coach that lies to his face and/or is terrible at his job but comes down hard on the players. Its really no wonder why we keep have stretches where we seemingly collapse, they have no reason to fight for our coaches. They know Philbin doesnt have their backs(save for, perhaps, Pouncey).

I doubt Philbin has a Keith Traylor/Cam Cameron type situation erupt, but if we keep losing and the Harbaugh rumors keep swirling im not going to be surprised if players turn on him. Tannehill has already publicly vented a few times.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

Yet another example of inconsistent treatment for players to seethe over. Especially after Richie sexual assaulted a woman and kept playing.

Philbin will vehemently defend a coach that lies to his face and/or is terrible at his job but comes down hard on the players. Its really no wonder why we keep have stretches where we seemingly collapse, they have no reason to fight for our coaches. They know Philbin doesnt have their backs(save for, perhaps, Pouncey).

I doubt Philbin has a Keith Traylor/Cam Cameron type situation erupt, but if we keep losing and the Harbaugh rumors keep swirling im not going to be surprised if players turn on him. Tannehill has already publicly vented a few times.

You're reaching a little too hard on this one, Mr. Team Member.

 

[Dolfan5000]

You're reaching a little too hard on this one, Mr. Team Member.

Guy acted like an ass at a hookah bar, refuses to leave, resists arrest, gets arrested. Pretty cut and dry. I didn't expect the indefinite suspension but it is what it is. I'd say the discipline he's facing is just. I'm pretty sure he won't be strapped for cash either. Can see him back once the full details of the incident are gathered, barring anything significantly bad we don't already know. Philbin isn't wrong here.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

Guy acted like an ass at a hookah bar, refuses to leave, resists arrest, gets arrested. Pretty cut and dry. I didn't expect the indefinite suspension but it is what it is. I'd say the discipline he's facing is just. I'm pretty sure he won't be strapped for cash either. Can see him back once the full details of the incident are gathered, barring anything significantly bad we don't already know. Philbin isn't wrong here.

I completely agree.

I was responding to Spesh's post in which he was trying to make some ridiculous locker-room/coach-distrust issue out of the whole thing. And my "Mr. Team Member" was a reference to his badge. :up:

 

[Dolfan5000]

I completely agree.

I was responding to Spesh's post in which he was trying to make some ridiculous locker-room/coach-distrust issue out of the whole thing. And my "Mr. Team Member" was a reference to his badge. :up:

I know I was just explaining why I thought he was reaching

 

[finfan54]

Philbin did more right than the rest of the league IMO. bottom line.

goodell is nothing but a greedy biased ahole.

 

[roy_miami]

Being consistent is overrated. I saw on a football life with Jimmy Johnson that he'd straight cut the 53rd man on the roster just for being late for a meeting. Another player kind of took issue asking if he'd do the same with Emmitt Smith or Troy Aikman to which he replied with something like 'what are you ****ing nuts? Of course I wouldn't cut my star RB for being late to a meeting, I wouldn't even say anything to him. And if you want that same treatment then you better start playing better...'

 

[utahphinsfan]

Being consistent is overrated...

Really? These players have gotten preferential treatment their whole life which leads to stupid decisions like the one Shelby made.

But, to give Superstars even more preferential treatment is ridiculous. Its like Animal Farm (All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others) on steroids or maybe HGH??

That said, isn't this the same Jimmy Johnson who drove Marino away because he had a fragile ego?

 

[rent this space]

Yet another example of inconsistent treatment for players to seethe over. Especially after Richie sexual assaulted a woman and kept playing.

Philbin will vehemently defend a coach that lies to his face and/or is terrible at his job but comes down hard on the players. Its really no wonder why we keep have stretches where we seemingly collapse, they have no reason to fight for our coaches. They know Philbin doesnt have their backs(save for, perhaps, Pouncey).

I doubt Philbin has a Keith Traylor/Cam Cameron type situation erupt, but if we keep losing and the Harbaugh rumors keep swirling im not going to be surprised if players turn on him. Tannehill has already publicly vented a few times.

I believe Philbin wanted to cut Richie after the golf club incident, not really a good analogy.
also, wouldn't the decision to withhold pay be made by the GM?

 

[roy_miami]

Really? These players have gotten preferential treatment their whole life which leads to stupid decisions like the one Shelby made.

But, to give Superstars even more preferential treatment is ridiculous. Its like Animal Farm (All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others) on steroids or maybe HGH??

That said, isn't this the same Jimmy Johnson who drove Marino away because he had a fragile ego?

I don't know about all that but he did win a few SuperBowls so he must have been doing some things right. And Shula thought about trading Marino too, that makes two hall of fame coaches that had issues with Marino, maybe Marino was indeed a problem?