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Since teams now have to interview 2 minority candidates before making a hire, I think it brings a strategical element to the hiring cycle. For example if your major target is not a minority, are you better off getting those out of the way first? Or having direct contact with your #1 target first so you can really sell your point to him before other teams more important? Which also puts you front line for the 2nd interview before every one else?

OTOH, I've heard that these interviews hold alot of value for getting an outside perspective of your organization and personnel. So in the case where your #1 target is a minority, do you go and try to interview and hire on the spot to beat everyone to the punch? Or are you losing too much value from the "informative" interviews by doing so?

I find the strategical aspect of this very interesting, I suspect this thread might not even get 2 pages but interested to know what you guys think is the best way to go about it...?
 
I think you have to have some sort of contact with your front runner right away. I wouldn't be shocked if Daboll isn't they guy they targeted. I also think it's good to make as many interviews as you can to gain perspective on your organization from the outside looking in. Targeting Daboll and Frazier is genius no matter if either are the hire or not. Miami will get to see what the top team in their division thinks of them from both the OC and the Dc point of views. Not only what they think of them, but what they feel is needed to fix the Dolphins including the QB position.
 
In business in general, you should make your ideal expectations VERY CLEAR. They should be very up front with who their #1 candidate is *if* they have that person in mind.

With that said, apparently Miami didn’t have anyone in particular in mind, so they should be doing their due diligence on candidates and, as mentioned by both posters above, get other opinions on suggestions/observations/best practices that could be implemented regardless of if that person is hired or not.

A lot of these guys come prepared - as they should… so there is some things to take from nearly any candidate who comes in. Lots of valuable insight to gain from talking with different people.
 
They should understand what they want in a head coach, and that better include the best plan to fix the offense and find a QB or develop the QB currently in place.
 
In business in general, you should make your ideal expectations VERY CLEAR. They should be very up front with who their #1 candidate is *if* they have that person in mind.

With that said, apparently Miami didn’t have anyone in particular in mind, so they should be doing their due diligence on candidates and, as mentioned by both posters above, get other opinions on suggestions/observations/best practices that could be implemented regardless of if that person is hired or not.

A lot of these guys come prepared - as they should… so there is some things to take from nearly any candidate who comes in. Lots of valuable insight to gain from talking with different people.
I'm not so sure they didn't have anyone in mind. I believe Ross made his mind up about Flores weeks ago. You'd have to think Grier was in the loop and was tasked to formulate a plan of candidates. They may have an open mind (which they should) about all the candidates. but I believe they had a plan.
 
I agree that the intelligence gathering aspect of the hiring process is interesting. It is probably the reason a team can refuse to allow a coordinator to be interviewed. I am surprised the Bills allowed both coordinators to be interviewed.
 
I don’t know if there is really any edge to hiding your intentions in the first round of interviews, unless it’s an out of the box style candidate that you have in mind. Even then, I would hesitate to be too sneaky because if they aren’t your typical candidate, then how much value do you gain by avoiding them outright?

Also when did they make the change to the Rooney Rule? I just discovered the two candidate minimum last night
 
Token interviews are not allowed. You do not do that to yourself or to others. You do not fk around. There is only one strategy. You need to conduct meaningful fair interviews timely, without delays, Get on it!
 
Since teams now have to interview 2 minority candidates before making a hire, I think it brings a strategical element to the hiring cycle. For example if your major target is not a minority, are you better off getting those out of the way first? Or having direct contact with your #1 target first so you can really sell your point to him before other teams more important? Which also puts you front line for the 2nd interview before every one else?

OTOH, I've heard that these interviews hold alot of value for getting an outside perspective of your organization and personnel. So in the case where your #1 target is a minority, do you go and try to interview and hire on the spot to beat everyone to the punch? Or are you losing too much value from the "informative" interviews by doing so?

I find the strategical aspect of this very interesting, I suspect this thread might not even get 2 pages but interested to know what you guys think is the best way to go about it...?

You/we may be overthinking this. It's possible all interviews will be scheduled close to a 'when available' basis. It may be a minority guy is choice 1 or 2. Yes, there is some strategy, but I don’t think it's that critical .
It may come down to simple stuff - philosophy, general perception of talent, Miami's priority - maybe an. oc
 
You/we may be overthinking this. It's possible all interviews will be scheduled close to a 'when available' basis. It may be a minority guy is choice 1 or 2. Yes, there is some strategy, but I don’t think it's that critical .
It may come down to simple stuff - philosophy, general perception of talent, Miami's priority - maybe an. oc
I overthink everything... Thats just me... Lol! I once spent 3 hours determining the expected value of stopping at a red light at 3am in the morning when no ones around....

edit: Those 3 hours werent spent sitting at the actual red light...
 
Since teams now have to interview 2 minority candidates before making a hire, I think it brings a strategical element to the hiring cycle. For example if your major target is not a minority, are you better off getting those out of the way first? Or having direct contact with your #1 target first so you can really sell your point to him before other teams more important? Which also puts you front line for the 2nd interview before every one else?

OTOH, I've heard that these interviews hold alot of value for getting an outside perspective of your organization and personnel. So in the case where your #1 target is a minority, do you go and try to interview and hire on the spot to beat everyone to the punch? Or are you losing too much value from the "informative" interviews by doing so?

I find the strategical aspect of this very interesting, I suspect this thread might not even get 2 pages but interested to know what you guys think is the best way to go about it...?

We had more success hiring a minority (flores) than we did hiring a non-minority. The Dolphins however seem to be interviewing candidates on their ability to work with the existing regime. I don't think the Dolphins are looking for somebody to change the chemistry. If the reports on Flores are remotely true, our hiring process will revolve around someone that plans to report progress in an ongoing basis. We need for a moment to stop thinking Teams actually just interview minorities to get everything out of the way because that isn't necessarily true. I don't think a team will make it look like they are satisfying the Rooney rule, and if that is the case then every team should interview Flores just to satisfy the rule as he has credibility in the league in many's eyes.
 
This is exactly where I dont want this thread to go...
I mean, you brought it up bro. That's what the rooney rule is. Your question about whether it's an advantage or not really is moot because like I said, if they are qualified or they love them, NO MATTER what type of minority they are, they can pull the trigger to hire. Also, the person being hired may still have more interviews so what would make him stop right there just because a team is offering when they know they could have chances elsewhere?
 
I mean, you brought it up bro. That's what the rooney rule is. Your question about whether it's an advantage or not really is moot because like I said, if they are qualified or they love them, NO MATTER what type of minority they are, they can pull the trigger to hire. Also, the person being hired may still have more interviews so what would make him stop right there just because a team is offering when they know they could have chances elsewhere?
I brought up the strategical implications of the rules in place, not whether the rules make sense or not... Thanks for your input nonetheless...
 
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