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I saw a quote yesterday where Gase said

"We built this defense to play with a Lead"

WAIT... WHAT???? First of all WE WHO? Did he mean WE as in Tannebaum? Because Gase just got here. Secondly.. How does that even f-ing work? As if the game starts in the middle of the second quarter with the dolphins leading 21-0... Why in God's name would you build a defense to "Play with a Lead" when you have had absolutely no evidence over the LAST 4 YEARS, that your offense can consistently get FIRST DOWNS let alone build a damn LEAD!! You built the defense to play with a lead?? OK so what happens in the first quarter when the score is 0-0 sooo we're not built to play in that situation?? WTF MAN?

That sounds like some Tannebaum football executive knows nothing about real football type talk and Gase repeated that crap in a presser!!! This guy has sooooo much to learn it's ridiculous. Vance Joseph is in over his head and is obviously LOST! And Gase can't help him because he has no f-ing clue how to coach defense.

It's one thing to be successful running someone else's defense but when it's YOUR OWN and YOU are the one players and coaches are coming to for answers.... THAT is an entirely different level of knowledge. And clearly Vance\Gase don't know enough about football to make the adjustments. But hey it's not their fault!! I'm sure they're trying. It's managements fault for hiring them.

Now we just gotta hope that over the course of this year they figure it out because i don't see them getting fired no matter what happens this year.
 
You have to get a lead first. 17 yards in the first quarter isn't going to get you a lead.
 
I thought Gase was supposed to be a guy that could mold his scheme to fit what the players do well in any given situation?
 
I guess he didn't know 4 of our 5 offensive lineman are pure trash and the other is great but injury prone (Albert)

But how did TANNENBAUM and GRIER not know this.
 
JTech194 said:
I saw a quote yesterday where Gase said "We built this defense to play with a Lead" WAIT... WHAT???? First of all WE WHO? Did he mean WE as in Tannebaum? Because Gase just got here. Secondly.. How does that even f-ing work? As if the game starts in the middle of the second quarter with the dolphins leading 21-0... Why in God's name would you build a defense to "Play with a Lead" when you have had absolutely no evidence over the LAST 4 YEARS, that your offense can consistently get FIRST DOWNS let alone build a damn LEAD!! You built the defense to play with a lead?? OK so what happens in the first quarter when the score is 0-0 sooo we're not built to play in that situation?? WTF MAN? That sounds like some Tannebaum football executive knows nothing about real football type talk and Gase repeated that crap in a presser!!! This guy has sooooo much to learn it's ridiculous. Vance Joseph is in over his head and is obviously LOST! And Gase can't help him because he has no f-ing clue how to coach defense. It's one thing to be successful running someone else's defense but when it's YOUR OWN and YOU are the one players and coaches are coming to for answers.... THAT is an entirely different level of knowledge. And clearly Vance\Gase don't know enough about football to make the adjustments. But hey it's not their fault!! I'm sure they're trying. It's managements fault for hiring them. Now we just gotta hope that over the course of this year they figure it out because i don't see them getting fired no matter what happens this year.
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To be fair, the NE D is built to play with a lead and it works well. The difference is the NE O was scoring and THEN the D was built to play with a lead. In Miami's case, there was nothing but speculation the O would score points. Faaaarr different. Worse, if Gase thought his O was going to score points and it ends up a bottom dweller, it's HIS unit.
 
Gase has to have had some major influence on the roster. That draft made no sense unless he was pushing for a backup WR and 3rd down back. Why give up so much value for niche offensive players unless it's being pushed for by a coach with an offensive background. That focus contributed to the fact that the defense was almost completely ignored when what it really needed was almost a complete rebuild.
 
Fintastic2124 said:
You have to get a lead first. 17 yards in the first quarter isn't going to get you a lead.
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It damn sure won't smh.

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roy_miami said:
I thought Gase was supposed to be a guy that could mold his scheme to fit what the players do well in any given situation?
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So did I, but that's what Lazor\Philbin did. So I'm guessing he wanted to see if the system he's had success with in the past worked first before he created a new one for these sad sacks. IDK I'm just guessing.

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Daytona Fin said:
How about an offense that wasn't built like pop warner.
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Yea. That doesn't help.
 
fansinceGWilson said:
To be fair, the NE D is built to play with a lead and it works well. The difference is the NE O was scoring and THEN the D was built to play with a lead. In Miami's case, there was nothing but speculation the O would score points. Faaaarr different. Worse, if Gase thought his O was going to score points and it ends up a bottom dweller, it's HIS unit.
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How so? Because New England's defense seem to be pretty good in all situations. Playing with a lead, playing from behind, playing when the score is tied etc...

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Mogwai said:
Gase has to have had some major influence on the roster. That draft made no sense unless he was pushing for a backup WR and 3rd down back. Why give up so much value for niche offensive players unless it's being pushed for by a coach with an offensive background. That focus contributed to the fact that the defense was almost completely ignored when what it really needed was almost a complete rebuild.
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Good question.... but then then he's not even using those players on offense so.... WTF? Grant hasn't seen the field much on offense if at all, neither has caroo.
 
JTech194 said:
How so? Because New England's defense seem to be pretty good in all situations. Playing with a lead, playing from behind, playing when the score is tied etc...

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Good question.... but then then he's not even using those players on offense so.... WTF? Grant hasn't seen the field much on offense if at all, neither has caroo.
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In a literal sense, "built to play with a lead" means you can't defend the run. So his statement is accurate.
 
I think he meant lead, as in lead foot. Because the way this defense moves, I would believe they have lead in their feet.
 
sounds like he's trying to continue to blame the offense....and he's probably doing that because it's his unit, his specialty..he's being hard on the offense as an extension of being hard on himself....

but frankly our defense was built with chewing gum and toothpicks so IDK if I would call it "built" for anything.
 
Ireland said the same thing when he was here. Tannenbaum has no clue how to construct a team so I don't know why anyone would be surprised but I'm pretty certain this is Gase echoing Tannenbaum's words.
 
I've been mentioning this repeatedly since we saw NE. This is ALL about ROSS and his preference.

ROSS has a "vision" for a fast-scoring, pass happy, Green Bay type offense. He wants the Marino years relived. Towards that end, he hires Philpin. Ireland gets players in the mold of Bill Parcells' / Tony Sparano "tough guys", so the personnel is blamed. Ireland is fired. Philbin's soft "finesse" idea doesn't work because he's a bad HC - doesn't motivate / bad decisions. Ross hires Tannenbaum who tells him what he wants to hear - e.g., "Tannehill's your man!, we just got to build around him". So, Philbin's out and they hire another pass-happy OC that is in over his head and is even MORE clueless than Philbin.

That's what I've been telling everyone for a while now. This team was "built" with patchwork pieces to be the team Ross wants.

Accordingly, Ross / T-Bomb / Gase's "vision" was to have a fast scoring offense, and a D that can pin its ears back and rush the passer when the other team is trying to catch up. Instead, you get the opposite: a "finesse" team that CAN'T get a first down, and a D that can't tackle and get off the field, thereby getting even WORSE as the game rolls along. It's a terrible mis-match. A complete DISASTER. You have to have a damned near "hall of fame" QB to pull off what Ross wants to pull off. Those guys don't grow on trees. T-Hill could be "good enough", if he had a strong running game and a strong Defense, but he doesn't, and he is CLEARLY not the Drew Brees / Aaron Rogers type of guy it would take to run the type of offense this F'd up team has to have for the D to fulfill its role.

Until Ross either changes his mind about what sort of football team he wants or he sells the team, this is what we're going to be stuck with. He WANTS a pass happy team.
 
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