Gase Vs Tomlin Vs Belichek

[BennySwella]

First off, I am not comparing their careers, I am comparing their coaching styles.

As many of you might have seen, articles have recently come out, one of them of Amendola praising Gase for being one of the guys in comparison to Belichek's domineering "principal" role.

And by chance another article came out where James Harisson started complimenting Belichek for that very same domineering style over another multiple SB winning coac, Mike Tomlin, stating that he was too lenient because he was like one of the guys.

My question is... whose story do you buy? What kind of coach is best? Or best for this team? And where do you think Gase actually falls between the 2?

Personally, I like Gase's coaching style in comparison to both examples. I think some players respond well to a "player's coach" like Gase, but it is a fine line. As we saw, Suh loved the same thing in Gase when he first got here, but it seems that relationship may have not stayed the same. Which leads me to believe that Gase is somewhere in between both styles.

A coach who is down to earth but also a disciplinarian who is not scared to lay down the law and send superstars packing.

I mention this because he seems to be so different than the rest of the coaches we have had. A guy who is exceptional at the football side of things yet brings a relatable, yet respectable, pedigree to the men he leads.

I think Gase is a good coach, but these things alone, do not make a great coach, but Gase definitely has the potential to be.

 

[67Stang]

The book is still out on Gase, but while I don't think Tomlin is a bad coach and he is a SB winning coach and Pittsburg is always in the mix, that team with the talent and QB they have had should have a few more Super Bowls IMHO. Players complain when they leave New England, but you can't deny Belicheks dominance. He won 11 games with Matt Cassel and went 3-1 when Brady was suspended with 2 different QBs. If you look back on the great coaches in this league, they were all authoritarians. I do like that while Gase is a "Players coach", we have seen that he holds people accountable and is not afraid (whether right or wrong) to cut bait with talent he feels is detrimental to the team.

 

[The Ghost]

I don't think its fair to assume Adam Gase is anywhere near a finished product so evaluating him let alone comparing him to other's is improper I think.

Bill Belichek's first head coaching stint was so bad the team moved cities after firing him.

Adam Gase has passed through a gauntlet of obstacles that most young head coaches don't have to face and he's still standing. Not only still standing but poised to insert his will, on his roster, with his franchise QB at helm.

I'm not going to compare the dude to anyone because I want/hope Adam Gase becomes great simply in his own right.

 

[superphin]

Tomlin is not a multi SB winning coach.

Anyways I don't know how much stock I put into a coaches personality. I mean if Bill B was a players coach but was still ruthless enough to cut a captain in Lawyer Millor, was a defensive genius, and still every bit the coach he is now does that change the amount of SB's he ultimately wins? I would say no.

After thinking about it I would say outside of having a beta personality and being soft as baby poop like a Joe Philbin or Cam Cameron i don't think being one of the guys is better or worse than being a disciplinarian.

 

[fansinceGWilson]

First off, I am not comparing their careers, I am comparing their coaching styles.

As many of you might have seen, articles have recently come out, one of them of Amendola praising Gase for being one of the guys in comparison to Belichek's domineering "principal" role.

And by chance another article came out where James Harisson started complimenting Belichek for that very same domineering style over another multiple SB winning coac, Mike Tomlin, stating that he was too lenient because he was like one of the guys.

My question is... whose story do you buy? What kind of coach is best? Or best for this team? And where do you think Gase actually falls between the 2?

Personally, I like Gase's coaching style in comparison to both examples. I think some players respond well to a "player's coach" like Gase, but it is a fine line. As we saw, Suh loved the same thing in Gase when he first got here, but it seems that relationship may have not stayed the same. Which leads me to believe that Gase is somewhere in between both styles.

A coach who is down to earth but also a disciplinarian who is not scared to lay down the law and send superstars packing.

I mention this because he seems to be so different than the rest of the coaches we have had. A guy who is exceptional at the football side of things yet brings a relatable, yet respectable, pedigree to the men he leads.

I think Gase is a good coach, but these things alone, do not make a great coach, but Gase definitely has the potential to be.

A poor analogy, but GOOD bosses know when to be 'one of us' and when to be 'the boss.' What most people call a disciplinarian is a perfectionist. Amendola's time here has shown he learned the value of striving for perfection.

 

[oasis]

A lot of different coaching styles can win a SB. Gase doesn't need to be anyone but himself, and his style is NOT incompatible with winning. The FO has been shrewd enough to understand they need players that fit with Gase's style, so letting him get who he wants is the right way to evaluate him.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

Adam Gase should find the coaching style that works for him.

Dick Vermeil was a great head coach who took two different teams to the Super Bowl in two different eras. Vermeil held people accountable and was not one to put up with BS, but he was also someone that earned the love, respect, and friendship of his players by making himself available, bonding with them, and treating them as equals outside of the necessary hierarchy of the football organization.

Lots of approaches can work. The key is competence when it comes to managing the roster and coaching staff, and understanding the nuances of the game.

 

[Mach2]

I believe coaching has evolved along with the rest of the game/show. The old school disciplinarian are for the not part, a thing of yesteryear. Multimillionaires don't respond well to that style. BB is old school. Tomlin is as well, but that is a unique situation. Three coaches in four decades.

Some players need discipline, others not so much. When you find yourself with players that don't "fit" within the construct of the system, you have to move on.

 

[phintim]

Gase needs to be a head coach at least 5 years before you can compare him to these guys.