Give up on wildcat players please.

[G-Force]

I see all these posts about drafting Tebow and Pat White and it irritates me. First off Dan Henning never ran the WC before us and the only reason we ran it was because we had a serious lack of playmakers and our only ones were HB's, hence we put Ronnie and Ricky back there. We will address the interior o-line which was the main reason we had to run a trick offense and they still couldn't block anyone.

 

[GoonBoss]

If I never see that formation again, it will be too soon.

 

[SuperMarksBros.]

Agreed, I have no problem bringing in UFAs in hopes that they might fit what we want to do with the formation, but despite our 1st place finish, we are still in the middle of a massive rebuild.We can ill afford to waste valuable picks to suit a formation we'll see 5 times a game.

 

[BLITZKRIEG]

AMEN!!!!! :hi5: Enough of the "wildcat" already!!!....

IN TUNA WE TRUST....

 

[Frank B]

I hear what you're saying. I would cringe when the Wildcat formation would pop up in the middle of a drive. We always seemed to call it just when we had some momentum going on offense.

However, I'm not ready to completely chuck the whole formation into the trash. I think there are some players out there that could make this more effective. I wouldn't get upset with the speculation about specific college players. Parcells, Ireland, and Sparano are too smart to go out and pickup players that can only help us in a limited capacity. Would I draft Tebow? Maybe in the 4th round as a TE.

 

[burger13]

I see all these posts about Tebow and Pat White and it irritates me. First off Dan Henning never ran the WC before us and the only reason we ran it was because we had a serious lack of playmakers and our only ones were HB's, hence we put Ronnie and Ricky back there. Secondly the wildcat failed miserably after about week 6-7. We will address the interior o-line which was the main reason we had to run a trick offense and they still couldn't block anyone. Did you wildcat fans only watch the NE game or something?

I was with you as far as the thread title....as we absolutely do not need to think about bringing in players based off of how they will work in a formation we used less than 10% of the time.

But IMO, you are far too critical of the wildcat did it fail miserably in the week 17 game against the Jets when it resulted in Ricky Williams wide open down the right sideline. Or the other time we used it and Ronnie missed a wide open Haynos.

The wildcat was still creating oppritunities for us, the execution was just a bit off

 

[CChambers7284]

I see all these posts about Tebow and Pat White and it irritates me. First off Dan Henning never ran the WC before us and the only reason we ran it was because we had a serious lack of playmakers and our only ones were HB's, hence we put Ronnie and Ricky back there. Secondly the wildcat failed miserably after about week 6-7. We will address the interior o-line which was the main reason we had to run a trick offense and they still couldn't block anyone. Did you wildcat fans only watch the NE game or something?

i do agree with u until the only time was the NE game.

It worked many times throughout hte season

What about Seattle.
Our two TDs were outta that formation?

 

[G-Force]

I hear what you're saying. I would cringe when the Wildcat formation would pop up in the middle of a drive. We always seemed to call it just when we had some momentum going on offense.

However, I'm not ready to completely chuck the whole formation into the trash. I think there are some players out there that could make this more effective. I wouldn't get upset with the speculation about specific college players. Parcells, Ireland, and Sparano are too smart to go out and pickup players that can only help us in a limited capacity. Would I draft Tebow? Maybe in the 4th round as a TE.

Not saying to throw the whole thing out. We added wrinkles to it to be effective and just missed on many like on the Ricky drop at NY. But I see people saying trade a 2nd so we could get a Tebow (whom isn't even coming out anyway) and some saying we are very interested in Pat White whom will probably take a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick. Chad Pennington is one of the most accurate passers in NFL history and we spent a 2nd on our other 2 QB's. I don't know how many of these people watched all season and preseason but Chad Henne in that 4th preseason game announced to us all that he is for real and he gets a couple of years to learn from Pennington. That would leave Tebow (whom isn't coming out anyway) for a H-back and White at WR and would anyone take either any higher than a 6th for that role? Seriously?

 

[G-Force]

My bad. I meant we can still use it but we don't need to waste picks or look for parts with this draft to use it. It is not and everydown formation and can be as harmful as helpfull. We have the parts needed with speedy WR's and talented HB's and the only way we could get a short yardage 1st down was with Polite out of the WC. I'm saying lets fix that short yardage trouble with picks instead of looking to upgrade for a trick formation.

 

[Geforce]

I was with you as far as the thread title....as we absolutely do not need to think about bringing in players based off of how they will work in a formation we used less than 10% of the time.

But IMO, you are far too critical of the wildcat did it fail miserably in the week 17 game against the Jets when it resulted in Ricky Williams wide open down the right sideline. Or the other time we used it and Ronnie missed a wide open Haynos.

The wildcat was still creating oppritunities for us, the execution was just a bit off

This is why there is talk of bringing in players such as Pat White, who will also be used as a Jack-of-All-Trades, to be the QB in the Wildcat because they have the ability to throw the ball as well as run. A player like White could also be used in Ricky's role as the Stealer where he can have the option of running or passing out of that formation. It would add so many more options to one of the most misinformed formation in the NFL.

 

[VT Dolphan]

If you watched the Jets game Week 17 I don't know how you could possibly say it would be in our best interest to completely abandon it. As that last regular season game showed, there were still some wrinkles to it that had not yet been unveiled. That play where Ronnie took the handoff, ran forward a yard and then threw a little jump pass to Haynos was brilliant. If not for a terrible pass by Ronnie that probably would have been a 50 yarder to Haynos, or a touchdown with a better receiver. Then there was Ricky's big drop on what would have been about a 30 yarder down the sideline.

Did we over-rely on it at times this season? Yes
Did it help mask a lot of our offensive problems? Yes
Did it single-handedly win us more than 1 game this year? Yes

I'm not expecting to see it used nearly as frequently next year, but to completely abandon it would be stupid. I think using it two or three times a game in the right situation will be very effective if we can upgrade the personnel a little bit.

 

[G-Force]

This is why there is talk of bringing in players such as Pat White, who will also be used as a Jack-of-All-Trades, to be the QB in the Wildcat because they have the ability to throw the ball as well as run. A player like White could also be used in Ricky's role as the Stealer where he can have the option of running or passing out of that formation. It would add so many more options to one of the most misinformed formation in the NFL.

So you think we should use a pick while we're rebuilding on Pat White when we could get a better player IMO for that role in Armanti Edwards (App St.) as an undrafted FA?

 

[Geforce]

My bad. I meant we can still use it but we don't need to waste picks or look for parts with this draft to use it. It is not and everydown formation and can be as harmful as helpfull. We have the parts needed with speedy WR's and talented HB's and the only way we could get a short yardage 1st down was with Polite out of the WC. I'm saying lets fix that short yardage trouble with picks instead of looking to upgrade for a trick formation.

This is the part where you lose it for me. The wildcat is not a trick or gimmicky formation.

 

[G-Force]

I never said completely abondon it. Every team needs to be unpredictable at times but you should use the players you have for those times and find which you have is best suited to make the plays instead of wasting picks on players in a REBUILDING draft for those roles.

 

[G-Force]

This is the part where you lose it for me. The wildcat is not a trick or gimmicky formation.

It tricks of confuses (if you will) the defenses which inturn can be considered a trick plays. A Hb pass and a triple option in the NFL has always been considered trick plays.:up: